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Balaibalan - The first human constructed language long before Esperanto
1.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 28 May 2012 Mon 07:08 pm

Balaibalan (Turkish: Bâleybelen) is a constructed language that probably originated from the 14th century mystic Fadl Allah from Asterabad or else his followers in the 15th century.[1] The language is also known as Balibilen, Bala-i-Balan and Balaïbalan. The only known copy of the Bâleybelen-dictionary is to be found in the Bibliothèque nationale de France in Paris.

Bâleybelen is an a posteriori constructed language. The vocabulary is borrowed from Persian, Turkish and Arabic, while the grammar is agglutinating like Turkish.[1] The language was written with the Ottoman variant of the Arabic alphabet. The creator was the mystic Muhyî-i Gülşenî, born in Edirne to family originally from Shiraz. A member of the Gülşenî sufi order in Cairo, Mehmed Muhyî-i was helped in the creation of Bâleybelen by several other Gülşenî figures.

In contrast to the best-known modern constructed languages, which are usually meant to be used by as many as possible as international auxiliary languages, or used in literature or film, Bâleybelen was probably designed as a holy or poetic language for religious reasons (like Lingua Ignota and perhaps Damin). Bâleybelen may also have been a secret language which was only known by an inner circle.

It was speculated that each time God gave humans a new revelation, a new language was used. Abraham received his revelation in Hebrew, Jesus his in Aramaic and Muhammad his in Arabic. Consequently, Bâleybelen might have been considered a sign that a new religious revelation was imminent.

Bâleybelen is the only well-documented early constructed language that is not of European origin, and it is independent of the fashion for language construction that occurred in the Renaissance.

The existence of Bâleybelen shows that constructed languages are neither a modern nor an exclusively western phenomenon. Constructed languages for religious purposes or use by secret societies have probably arisen many times all over the world, since the earliest times.

Research in non-European historical archives, analyses of shamanistic languages and other languages used for religious purposes, might lead to finding many more specimens than are known today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balaibalan

Bâleybelen (dilsizlere dil veren), Muhyi-i Gülşeni (1528-1604) tarafından itikadî bilgileri avamdan sakınıp sırlamak ve Osmanlı´da ortak kültür dili yaratmak üzere 1574´de kurgulanan dünyadaki ilk yapay dil.

Muhyî, Bâleybelen ile 200 eser yazar. Öğrencileri Bâleybelen´i devam ettirmeye çalışır, ancak neredeyse Muhyî´nin ölümüyle bu dil de kullanılmaz olur. Günümüze bu dille yazılan eserlerden pek azı gelebilmiştir.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balibilen

2.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 03 Jun 2012 Sun 12:13 am

 

Quoting ikicihan

In contrast to the best-known modern constructed languages, which are usually meant to be used by as many as possible as international auxiliary languages, or used in literature or film, Bâleybelen was probably designed as a holy or poetic language for religious reasons (like Lingua Ignota and perhaps Damin). Bâleybelen may also have been a secret language which was only known by an inner circle.

It was speculated that each time God gave humans a new revelation, a new language was used. Abraham received his revelation in Hebrew, Jesus his in Aramaic and Muhammad his in Arabic. Consequently, Bâleybelen might have been considered a sign that a new religious revelation was imminent.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balaibalan

 

 

It seems strange to me that a constructed language was seen as a religious sign, since constructed language is by definition created by men. Hebrew, Aramic and Arabian are clearly not costructed languages. A lot of the older constructed language were used in religious ways, but not seen as a sign either. Oh well, each their own

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3.       stumpy
638 posts
 12 Jun 2012 Tue 08:46 am

wonder what category Latin fall under?

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