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Odd Behavior of Verbs
1.       Abla
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 29 Apr 2013 Mon 01:45 pm

I see verbs like korkmak, çekinmek which according to the dictionary govern ablative often used with dative:

 

                            ?İnsanların yüzüne bakmaktan/bakmaya korkuyoruz

                            ?Çocuklarımı övmekten/övmeye çekiniyorum.

 

How come?

2.       ikicihan
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 29 Apr 2013 Mon 02:16 pm

"bakmaya, övmeye" sound to me more natural but nothing wrong with the other version.

3.       si++
3785 posts
 29 Apr 2013 Mon 02:52 pm

 

Quoting Abla

I see verbs like korkmak, çekinmek which according to the dictionary govern ablative often used with dative:

 

                            ?İnsanların yüzüne bakmaktan/bakmaya korkuyoruz

                            ?Çocuklarımı övmekten/övmeye çekiniyorum.

 

How come?

 

Try to to use it with QWs:

Neden/niye korkuyorsun?

Neden/niye çekiniyorsun?

 

Neden <-> from what (this is about a cause)

Niye <-> to what (this is about an outcome)

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4.       Abla
3647 posts
 29 Apr 2013 Mon 04:34 pm

Quote: si++

Neden/niye

It seems that WHY has two dimensions also.

5.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 29 Apr 2013 Mon 05:46 pm

 

Quoting Abla

 

It seems that WHY has two dimensions also.

 

Good understanding abla....well done !

 

Generally speaking,

A question that starts with "neden" expects the responder to report the "cause".

A question that starts with "niye" expects the responder to report the "result".

 

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6.       Abla
3647 posts
 30 Apr 2013 Tue 10:53 am

Thank you, ikicihan, si++, AlphaF. There seems to be a slight difference in meaning, maybe something that only good language users are aware of.

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