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''Babam ve Oğlum'' (My Father and My Son)
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10.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Oct 2006 Sun 05:39 am

I have recently watched this movie. I think that you can learn a lot about the Turkish culture from it. It shows the 'average Joe' of a Turkish village and the social and inter-generational tensions of most Turkish families. We see the male culture where men don't show their feelings (no matter how raging they are inside) and are angry and stubborn, and next to them - the women who live in their own, almost separate world with other type of emotional dynamics - who despite their overly emotional outloook, also struggle. The simplicity of their lifes, linearly constructed characters and almost black and white type of understanding makes the viewers feel like this has something of a paradise in it. But then develops the typical to Turkish cinematography dramatic and heartbreaking element, which at the end must also be consoled with the piece of simplified, but reassuring wisdom. The character that comes across to viewers as somehow rising above the others with its intelligence, is the one facing the tragedy. Although this character is not always a good one, he is the one who struggles with the gray area of life, he confronts the black and white thinking of his family and eventually becomes the victim. The story gives an overwhelming feeling that it is the men's world where the events are happening and that eventually it's the men's decisions that determine the course of action. This is subtly amusing to viewers, amusing because of the hidden truth of the reality, and because of the unnoticed importance women's decisions actually play. Nevertheless, women mostly play minor roles, are usually the entertainers and helpers. Turkish movies love dramas, but also want to make people laugh. What serves the latter purpose in this case, ironically, is the most simplified character - the other son - made to look funny for his mental retardation that was meant to be seen as the reason of his extreme emotionality.
Another exaggeration is the character of the child. His behavior is oddly clear and expressive. It seems that a child would normally use more defense mechanisms against traumatic events in his life and it wouldn't be as clear to know what it's thinking.
In all that, the main message of the movie is a great and transcendental one. And the movie itself is fun and worthy to watch for its cultural significance, the message and the comic situations.

11.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Nov 2006 Thu 02:43 am

Ok,friends,i wish you have some patient with me now,
İ don't understand Turkish,only few words,and i am watching the movie,which is only Turkish,no tranlation available.
So would you help me out here ?
First,i don't understand why he's been beaten and sent to jail ?!
He acually saved the baby,and if he didn't both of them will gonna die !

Second,i saw part while i was a bit view it,which the grandfather was standing,and another man,i guess was his son,run from afar and hit hard on him with his all power,
Why ?!!!

What is the indication of this ?!

Thank you for now till my next update while watching the rest of it,,lol

12.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 08:09 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Ok,friends,i wish you have some patient with me now,
İ don't understand Turkish,only few words,and i am watching the movie,which is only Turkish,no tranlation available.
So would you help me out here ?
First,i don't understand why he's been beaten and sent to jail ?!
He acually saved the baby,and if he didn't both of them will gonna die !

Second,i saw part while i was a bit view it,which the grandfather was standing,and another man,i guess was his son,run from afar and hit hard on him with his all power,
Why ?!!!

What is the indication of this ?!

Thank you for now till my next update while watching the rest of it,,lol



From what I understood, the night his wife gave birth, the army took over the government which means no one is allowed to go out on the streets. This is why they couldnt find a cab and had to deliver the baby themselves which eventyally caused his wife's death.

From his moustahce you canunderstand he was a communist. COmmunist werent accepted and put to jail. They were also a shame for the family which is why he wasnt doing well at all with his father.

The running part. The grandfather blamed himself for his son's death. He thought that if he didnt let his son go, he wouldnt end up in jail and he wouldnt have been in such bad conditions that had made him ill. One of the women in the family wanted to show the grandfather that it is not his fault. She let the other son ran into the grandfather to show him that if someone really wants to go, they will use all their strength and you wont be able to stop them anyway, so no need to feel guilty.

13.       goner
506 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 09:11 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:



Good summary Esther...
Takdir ettim valla.

He was sent to jail, as he was communist as Deli_Kızın said and also you know, he was out the streets but this is not allowed because of coup d'etat..

14.       anavi
30 posts
 28 Nov 2006 Tue 01:31 am

''Babam ve Oğlum''???? i wish if someone could help me with download. I need to watch it soon as possible!!so, help me with some link that i could download it.
This link (www.e-sipa.de) i dont understand.
TESEKKURLER!!!!

15.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 28 Nov 2006 Tue 01:35 am

i can put its link here..
if u want as a rapidshare...

16.       anavi
30 posts
 28 Nov 2006 Tue 10:59 pm

yes, i can use rapidshare for download. Pls, give me the link. tesekkur ederim

17.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 29 Nov 2006 Wed 11:27 am

BABAM VE OĞLUM...
if anyone wants to donwload...

http://rapidshare.de/files/20257835/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part01.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/20257709/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part02.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/20257746/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part03.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/20257704/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part04.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/20257802/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part05.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/20257822/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part06.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/20257831/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part07.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/20257772/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part08.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/20256859/B_V_O_dvdrip_bysarget.part09.rar

pass: sarget

18.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 29 Nov 2006 Wed 11:29 am

the links would die..
...

19.       azade
1606 posts
 01 Dec 2006 Fri 06:21 pm

This is one of the most emotional films I have ever seen, it makes me shed a tear everytime I watch it.

Does anybody know the name of the actress who plays the mother? She's on Avrupa Yakası as well, and I was wondering what else she's been doing.

20.       aslan2
507 posts
 01 Dec 2006 Fri 07:48 pm

Quoting azade:


Does anybody know the name of the actress who plays the mother? She's on Avrupa Yakası as well, and I was wondering what else she's been doing.


Hümeyra. She was a singer when she was young.

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