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The RSH (RŞ) sound
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10.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 02:20 pm

 

Quoting denizli

Can you hear ıt ın others? Here ıs an excellent lınk on the topıc: http://merhabaforums.com/turkish-language-f29/pronouncing-final-t11431.html            . In thıs lınk a begınner ınsısts they are hearıng ıt and the Turkısh speaker ınsısts they do not use ıt. It ıs a faınt or soft ş. So I may not be accurate to ın descrıbıng ıt as ´rş´. But somethıng ıs there, somethıng ıs after the ´r´. Because some speakers do thıs and some speakers just don´t add anythıng after the ´r´.

Maybe r has a different sound concept in your language. It is possible.

 

11.       srhat
36 posts
 20 Jul 2013 Sat 06:05 pm

I listened the video in the link you gave. I guess I understand what you mean. When you pronunce the letter "r", if you don´t stop air flow in your mouth after pronuncing the letter, you get that ş sound. Just because there are no more letters to pronunce when "r" is the last letter in the word (like in "onlar" "dersler" etc.), air flow in your mouth continues a little after pronuncing the letter. So you hear a sound like "ş"

Sorry for my bad english. I may have not described it well.

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12.       burakk
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 22 Jul 2013 Mon 01:34 am

yes we pronounce r a bit different. sometimes we say it half, which sounds like a silent r, or like an "rhş". it becomes more apperant when you try to learn a different language, especially if that language puts pressure on the r´s. it doesnt have to be at the end of the word, sometimes the r´s at the middle of the word also sound half or silent. i could theorize that its because of the thing that during the escalation of the turkic languages, the sounds were produced by the nautral movement of the mouth while doing the act that is named. so probably r came into the alphabet later or was derived form other sounds like j or t, so it has several different ways of being pronounced.

13.       cim
29 posts
 22 Jul 2013 Mon 07:27 pm

Perhaps it depends on the person´s anatomy. The r seems to be a "vowel stop" to me, and when it is on the end, depending on the tongue/lip structure, some people make a more or less sh. In english the r is a "growling" sound.

14.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:14 pm

I do the opposite. When I pronounce the ş at the end of the word r comes out of my mouth after it

15.       cim
29 posts
 23 Jul 2013 Tue 06:37 am

If you don´t think some pronounce sh on r at the end, try listening to

Gökhan Tepe and his video "Vur" on youtube.com at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4vO6dHax4w

16.       denizli
961 posts
 23 Jul 2013 Tue 02:18 pm

Thanks for your support I knew something was there. In some cases it is obvious, in many other cases it is faint or does not exist. That is why I wondered if it was something regional. For example, in the traditional Boston (USA) accent, they don´t pronounce the ´r´ at all.



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17.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 23 Jul 2013 Tue 11:28 pm

 

Quoting cim

If you don´t think some pronounce sh on r at the end, try listening to

Gökhan Tepe and his video "Vur" on youtube.com at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4vO6dHax4w

 

All I hear is meaningless words.

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