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Press Freedom Ranking and Turkey´s place.
1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Sep 2013 Fri 11:43 am

Turkey manages to beat Libya, Zambia, Egypt and Jordan but fails against Labenon, Greece, Albania and Romania in gobal press freedom ranking.

 

 http://www.freedomhouse.org/sites/default/files/Global%20and%20Regional%20Rankings.pdf 

2.       Aisha_Bilqis
23 posts
 20 Sep 2013 Fri 04:24 pm

A commentary on the run. I am still reading about the methodology employed to reach the ratings used in this report.


First of all the ratings and reports included in Freedom of the Press 2013 cover events that took place between January 1, 2012, and December 31, 2012.


Second, countries  scoring 0 to 30 are regarded as having “Free” media; 31 to 60, “Partly Free” media; and 61 to 100, “Not Free” media.


Hence my country Egypt which received a 62 rating wasn´t far behind from receiving a 59 - 60 point and be considered as "partly free".


Finally it is true that rankings when objective and unbiased are a valuable tool to assess the situation in a particular country, I don´t know though if the countries in question (i.e. which received 31 and above ranking) will take into consideration these rankings or if the intellectuals and the educated elites will take them as they are or they´ll be considered with a grain of salt ... and that is it!



Edited (9/20/2013) by Aisha_Bilqis

3.       burakk
309 posts
 20 Sep 2013 Fri 06:43 pm

ah im sure all the pink western countries are ranking -43534543 because all they do is make news abot how awesome and amazing they are and how fucked up everyone else is

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4.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Sep 2013 Fri 07:08 pm

 

Quoting burakk

ah im sure all the pink western countries are ranking -43534543 because all they do is make news abot how awesome and amazing they are and how fucked up everyone else is

 

There is no need to get angry!!

These things are measurable. They are measurable standards. If your state is jailing many journalists, if your jornalists are kicked off their jobs because of  the PM, what would you expect? Western sources are not making these tables in order to humiliate us particularly. Instead of getting angry with them, we should just look into our country and try to correct these things.

 

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5.       burakk
309 posts
 20 Sep 2013 Fri 08:21 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

There is no need to get angry!!

These things are measurable. They are measurable standards. If your state is jailing many journalists, if your jornalists are kicked off their jobs because of  the PM, what would you expect? Western sources are not making these tables in order to humiliate us particularly. Instead of getting angry with them, we should just look into our country and try to correct these things.

 

 

and who makes those measurable standars? aliens? westeners again. do they take into consideration the conditions of the country when they make these standarts? do they count the political instability? when they go and kill a journalist in ANOTHER country, that doesnt get counted in those standarts as deprivation of media freedom does it? please.

 

i agree with you but these things are made so much and so intentionally, its starting to give me a rubber taste.



Edited (9/20/2013) by burakk

6.       Khaur
13 posts
 20 Sep 2013 Fri 10:31 pm

I think such rankings should never be taken without considering the methodology first, so that one can forge its own opinion about the reliability of the ranking.

I know Google is our friend (or is it really?), but here´s the full report for those wondering (and too lazy to search).

7.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Sep 2013 Sat 01:46 am

 

Quoting burakk

 

 

and who makes those measurable standars? aliens? westeners again. do they take into consideration the conditions of the country when they make these standarts? do they count the political instability? when they go and kill a journalist in ANOTHER country, that doesnt get counted in those standarts as deprivation of media freedom does it? please.

 

i agree with you but these things are made so much and so intentionally, its starting to give me a rubber taste.

 

Who makes these standards? Well as far as I know, most of them were done by the west.

I am well awere that most of the concepts such as human rights, democracy, freedom of speech   etc  were not defined by us. Unfortunately most them were invented by the west. That, somehow, does not mean  we must/should reject them by default.

You can,  however as a country, keep living without taking these values into account. Some countries do. Saudi Arabia, Irak, Iran, Libya, Syria etc.. many of them. 

That is a choice really.. But I wont stop demanding for a more free press because these measurable standards are invented by the west with the same logic as I will never stop being against the torture because human rights and its measurements were invented by the west.

8.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Sep 2013 Sat 04:01 am

Part of the brainwashing process is to cultivate people´s nationalistic feelings so that they don´t believe anything negative that is said about their countries and thus maintain the status quo. 

 

UK is # 31

Canada # 29

France # 35

USA # 23

 

Here is a report by Reportes without Borders if you think that the previous one is the evil westerners trying to embarass innocent Turkey: 

Reporters without borders - press freedom ranking

 

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