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Reform package/more freedom but not enough
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01 Oct 2013 Tue 12:53 am |
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Not enough but yes  Old habits die hard
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01 Oct 2013 Tue 04:26 am |
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Seems good but is anyone suspicious that this is all just to increase the rights of the religious, or ultra-religious and curb the secularism?
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01 Oct 2013 Tue 08:41 am |
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Seems good but is anyone suspicious that this is all just to increase the rights of the religious, or ultra-religious and curb the secularism?
The problem with populists in every country is that all they really care about is votes. People can support these reforms for reasons which can be partly controversial. They are steps to the right direction (so late that it is really surprising when you come to think of it), towards modern society but the road is not clear yet.
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03 Oct 2013 Thu 12:08 am |
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Seems good but is anyone suspicious that this is all just to increase the rights of the religious, or ultra-religious and curb the secularism?
Of course some people are suspicious because they think sheria is finally arrived.
But actually, it is quite wrong:
Women with headscarf have already been working in some state departments since 2010. AKP has legalized a reality. But however, there was a huge expectation from the Kurds and Alevites. Alevites did not get anything but a promise for the next package. Kurds have already gained some of these rights with fighting and hugely dissapointed. (I think PKK leader´s opinion will matter the most about how the Kurds react . We will yet to learn that). No concrete measures regarding the elections and %10 threshold rule.
I think PM has been forced to give these rights because Turkey is becoming increasingly unmanagable. People are demanding more freedom and the government is just trying to give as little as posible to save the day and also the next general election.
But that racist oath inspired from Hitler and Musollini in 1930´s has gone for good. That is a good thing.
Edited (10/3/2013) by thehandsom
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07 Oct 2013 Mon 04:41 pm |
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Türkiye Sivil Özgürlükler’de 2002’de 7 üzerinden 5 alırken, şimdi 4. sırada... Siyasi Haklar konusunda ise 7 puandan 3 puana düşmüş
Türkiye, Sınır Tanımayan Gazeteciler Basın Özgürlüğü Endeksi’nde 2002’de 139 ülke arasında 99. sıradayken 2013’te 154’üncü sıraya düştü...
Türkiye Temel Haklar´da 97 ülke arasında 76. sırada. Sivil özgürlükler´de 44., Düzen ve Güvenlik’te 70. ve Adalet Sistemi’nde 71. sırada...
2013 İnternet Özgürlüğü raporuna göre 38inci sıradaki Türkiye Kenya, Nijerya, Uganda, Libya, Kamboçya, Ruanda gibi ülkelerin gerisinde kaldı
bu paketle zirveleri zorlarız artık
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08 Oct 2013 Tue 01:19 am |
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Of course some people are suspicious because they think sheria is finally arrived.
But actually, it is quite wrong:
Women with headscarf have already been working in some state departments since 2010. AKP has legalized a reality. But however, there was a huge expectation from the Kurds and Alevites. Alevites did not get anything but a promise for the next package. Kurds have already gained some of these rights with fighting and hugely dissapointed. (I think PKK leader´s opinion will matter the most about how the Kurds react . We will yet to learn that). No concrete measures regarding the elections and %10 threshold rule.
I think PM has been forced to give these rights because Turkey is becoming increasingly unmanagable. People are demanding more freedom and the government is just trying to give as little as posible to save the day and also the next general election.
But that racist oath inspired from Hitler and Musollini in 1930´s has gone for good. That is a good thing.
I think that this is a very optimistic look, not necessarily realistic. Like you said, Kurds, Alevites are disappointed.. because PM doesn´t care about democracy/freedom, he just wanted to add rights to people of his own beliefs/religion ONLY. This is not about democracy in my opinion. the PM didn´t suddenly become a democratic, enlightened guy, while last month killing people who disobeyed his orders.
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