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1.       daid
21 posts
 19 Feb 2014 Wed 08:56 pm

can anyone translate this poem of taşlıcalı yahya .

Tonandı ağlar ile nurdan menâra dönüp
Küşâde-hatırr idi şevk ile nehâra dönüp
Göründü halka dıraht-ı şukufezâra dönüp
Yürüdü kulları ardınca lalezâra dönüp
Tururdu hiddet ile şah-ı cihan nâra dönüp
Otağı haymelei karlı kühsâra dönüp
Müzeyyen idi bedenlerde Akhisâr’a dönüp
El öpmeye yürüdü mihr-i bi-karâra dönüp
Tutuldu gelmedi çünkim o mâh-pâre dönüp
Görenler ağladılar ebr-i nevbahâra dönüp

Bir ejderha-yı dü-serdir bu hayme-i dünyâ
Dehânına düşen olur hemişe nâ-peydâ

Getirdi arkasını yine Zâl-i devr-i zamân
Vücûduna sitem-i Rüstem ile erdi ziyân
Döküldü gözyaşı yıldızları çoğaldı figân
Dem-i memâtı kıyamet gününde oldu nişân
Giriv ü nâle vü zâr ile toldu kevn ü mekân
Akarsu gibi müdâm ağlamakta pir ü cüvân
Vücûd iline akın saldı akdı eşk-i revân
Eyâ serir-i saadette padişah-i cihân
O cân-ı âdemiyân oldu hâk ile yeksân
Diri kala ne revâdır fesâd eden şeytân

Nesim-i subh gibi yerde koma âhımızı
Hakaret eylediler nesl-i padişâhımızı

2.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 20 Feb 2014 Thu 12:39 am

This is a very difficult poem to translate. This poem is written in Otoman language. There are many old words and some very weird expressions dont make sense in English an even in Turkish. There are ambiguities in some sentences. So I made some guesses. I hope my translation makes sense.

 

    Meded meded bu cihanın yıkıldı bir yanı

    Help, help one side of this world has been demolished.

 

    Ecel celâlîleri aldı Mustafa Hânı,

    Celalis of death took Khan Mustafa.

 

    Tolundu mihr-i cemâli bozuldu divânı

    The sun of his beauty set, his council dissolved.

 

    Vebâle koydular âl ile Âl-i Osmânı

    With deceit they made the family of Ottoman carry this horrible consequence

 

    Geçerler idi geçende ol merd-i meydânı 

    They were backbiting him when that bravest man was mentioned.

 

    Felek o canibe döndürdü şah-ı devrânı

    Fate turned the Shah of the world to their side.

 

    Yalancının kuru bühtânı buğz-i pinhânı

    The slander of the liar and his hidden grudge

 

    Akıtdı yaşımızı yakdı nâr-ı hicrânı

    Made us shed tears and it lighted the fire of seperation.

 

    Cinayet etmedi cani gibi anın cânı

    He didnt murder anyone like a blood-thirsty man 

 

    Boğuldu seyl-i belaya tağıldı erkânı

    He got drowned in the flood of calamity, his men disbanded.

 

    N’olaydı görmeye idi bu macerâyı gözüm

    I wish my eyes had not seen this event.

 

    Yazıklar ana revâ görmedi bu râyı gözüm

    Woes. This judgement was not fit for him.

 

    Tonandı ağlar ile nurdan menâra dönüp

   He got decorated with whites like a minaret made of light.

 

    Küşâde-hatırr idi şevk ile nehâra dönüp

    He was open-hearted like the morning.

 

    Göründü halka dıraht-ı şukufezâra dönüp

    He appeared to the people like a tree in a flower garden.

 

 

    Yürüdü kulları ardınca lalezâra dönüp

    He walked among his people like a tulip garden.

 

    Tururdu hiddet ile şah-ı cihan nâra dönüp

    Shah of the world was standing with anger like fire

 

    Otağı haymelei karlı kühsâra dönüp

    His tents were like snowy mountain tops.

 

    Müzeyyen idi bedenlerle Akhisâr’a dönüp

    They were decorated with bodies like Akhisar

 

    El öpmeye yürüdü mihr-i bi-karâra dönüp

    He walked towards the unstable sun to kiss his hands.

 

    Tutuldu gelmedi çünkim o mâh-pâre dönüp

     He didnt come back because he turned into an eclipsed moon

 

    Görenler ağladılar ebr-i nevbahâra dönüp

    People who had seen this cried like spring clouds.

 

    Bir ejderha-yı dü-serdir bu hayme-i dünyâ

    This tent of world is like a two headed dragon.

 

    Dehânına düşen olur hemişe nâ-peydâ

    One who falls into its mouth disappears.

 

    Getirdi arkasını yine Zâl-i devr-i zamân

    That dragon beated the Zal of the time  again. 

 

    Vücûduna sitem-i Rüstem ile erdi ziyân

    The harm came to his body from the cruelty of Rüstem.

 

    Döküldü gözyaşı yıldızları çoğaldı figân

    The stars of tears were shed, lamentations increased.

 

    Dem-i memâtı kıyamet gününde oldu nişân

    The moment of his death has become a sign in the judgement day.

 

    Giriv ü nâle vü zâr ile toldu kevn ü mekân

    Everywhere has been filled with cries, sighs and tears

 

    Akarsu gibi müdâm ağlamakta pir ü cüvân

    Old and young everyone cries without stopping

 

    Vücûd iline akın saldı akdı eşk-i revân

    The tears flooded and flew to the land of body

 

    Eyâ serir-i saadette padişah-i cihân

    I wonder if the padishah of the world is on the bed of happiness.

 

    O cân-ı âdemiyân oldu hâk ile yeksân

    He, the soul of men became earth

 

    Diri kala ne revâdır fesâd eden şeytân

    Is it fair that the evil doer Satan is alive?

 

    Nesim-i subh gibi yerde koma âhımızı

    Dont put our sighs on the ground like the morning wind

 

    Hakaret eylediler nesl-i padişâhımızı

    They insulted the line of our padishah.

    …

    Taşıcalı Yahya Bey

 

 



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3.       daid
21 posts
 20 Feb 2014 Thu 07:03 pm

thanx a lot

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4.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 22 Feb 2014 Sat 06:53 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

This is a very difficult poem to translate. This poem is written in Otoman language. There are many old words and some very weird expressions dont make sense in English an even in Turkish. There are ambiguities in some sentences. So I made some guesses. I hope my translation makes sense.

 

 

Here is a modernized version, in case it helps you improve your translation

 

http://www.nkfu.com/sehzade-mustafa-mersiyesi-gunumuz-turkcesi-taslicali-yahya/

5.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 22 Feb 2014 Sat 09:43 pm

 

Quoting dilliduduk

 

 

Here is a modernized version, in case it helps you improve your translation

 

http://www.nkfu.com/sehzade-mustafa-mersiyesi-gunumuz-turkcesi-taslicali-yahya/

Thank you for this. It helped me understand some lines. But there are some big differences between two poems. I wonder why is that?

 

6.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 23 Jun 2014 Mon 06:33 am

I found a poem of same poet that was written after the death of Rustem Pasha. It is very interesting. I will translate the third part of the poem:

 

Al-i Osmanı kıran itdi ol imanı yaman

That infidel destroyed the family of Ottoman

Biri birisine girdi nitekim ab-ı revan

One fought against other like a river.

Ehl-i imandan akan kan ile toldı Karaman

Karaman was filled with the blood of the faithful people.

Bir dem içinde dem-i ademe gark oldı cihan

In a moment world sank into human blood.

Rüşvet altununı cem itmek idi işi heman

His job was always to gather bribe money.

Derdmend eyler idi encüm-i nahs ile kıran

 

Kanı ol mala tapan mezheb-i Karuna uyan

Where is now that worshipper of fortune and follower of Korah?

Enbiya sevmedügini seven aşub-ı zaman

Where is now that instigator who likes what prohophets dont like?

Haber-i mevti melul itdi beni hayli zaman

The news of his death made me sad for a long while

Korkar idüm bu şadi haberi ola yalan

Because I was afraid of that this happy news was a lie.

Yıkılup gitdi ol evkaf-ı selatini yıkan

The  one who demolished the foundations of sultans got demolished.

Mal-ı eytamı alup mescidi meyhane yapan

The one who used to take the possessions of orphans and turn mescids into taverns.

Her denlü yaramazlık var ise anda idi

He had all the bad manners that exists.

İki ayağı çukurda bir eli kanda idi

His two feet were in a pit and one of his hand was in blood.



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