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how to speak the tailing ´r´ ?
1.       yuwen
2 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 12:30 pm

Merhaba!  

I´m quite confused about the sound of "r" when it´s the last letter in a word.  For example, 

bir,  from video, it sounds like "beesh" for me.  How to speak the tailing "r´?   Thanks.

2.       yanis76
11 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 03:00 pm

I was confused about this too, but the best way it was explained to me is to think of it as not as a "shh" sound (which is ş but more that it is the trailing airflow from the mouth after pronouncing the ´r´ letter.

I often hear it when the final word of the sentence ends in an ´r´, but if a word that ends with ´r´ is followed by more words, then I don´t usually hear that sound.

3.       tunci
7149 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 03:02 pm

 

Quoting yuwen

Merhaba!  

I´m quite confused about the sound of "r" when it´s the last letter in a word.  For example, 

bir,  from video, it sounds like "beesh" for me.  How to speak the tailing "r´?   Thanks.

 

   In which video it says as "beesh " ? It is not pronounced as "beesh".  

 It is just "bir"  and it sounds like when you say " beer" in english BUT with short "e". [reading "e" short]

 

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4.       tunci
7149 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 03:13 pm

 

Quoting yanis76

I was confused about this too, but the best way it was explained to me is to think of it as not as a "shh" sound (which is ş but more that it is the trailing airflow from the mouth after pronouncing the ´r´ letter.

I often hear it when the final word of the sentence ends in an ´r´, but if a word that ends with ´r´ is followed by more words, then I don´t usually hear that sound.

 

You shoud be able to hear that sound , as all letters are supposed to be read in Turkish, unless the person has disability of not being able to say "r" letter. Since some people has that kind of problem. [ Aziz Yıldırım, Beyaz Öztürk ... ] 

 

Kar 

Sar

Dar 

---------

Kara 

Sara

Dara

-------

* Only sometimes we drop "r" in the end of "bir" in collaquial language, which doesnt mean we should not read that sound.

 

Bi dakka ==> its actually "Bir dakka"

Bi saniye  ==> " Bi saniye "

Bi gel  --> " Just come " ===> " Bir gel "

 

 

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5.       yuwen
2 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 03:24 pm

Oh, I mean "r" sounds like "ş" (in the previous message, I use "sh" to present "ş".  In the video:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZYsNXTloFg&index=9&list=PLDOlE-jNL3MoQ2D1a4Q7swqs-ZfbZaTF1

The phrase "Ne Kadar", the ending "r" sounds like "ş".

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6.       yanis76
11 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 03:50 pm

definitely not same sound as "ş" - think of it like you are about to roll your ´r´s (like the italians do)... but stop short of actually doing it

7.       tunci
7149 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 03:54 pm

 

Quoting yuwen

Oh, I mean "r" sounds like "ş" (in the previous message, I use "sh" to present "ş".  In the video:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZYsNXTloFg&index=9&list=PLDOlE-jNL3MoQ2D1a4Q7swqs-ZfbZaTF1

The phrase "Ne Kadar", the ending "r" sounds like "ş".

 

I watched the video, "r" sounds normal. To me it didnt sound as "ş".

My advice is , you should watch other videos which has words with "ş" sounds in it, so that you may hear the difference. 

 

 

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8.       yanis76
11 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 04:14 pm

just to add some perspective.  To some (not all) english native speakers.. we are not used to hearing this flow of air after Turkish people pronouncing their ´r´. 

In (British) English this sound doesn´t exist since we tend NOT to sound our ´r´ much. example "car" in England we say "caahh"

9.       denizli
961 posts
 09 Jul 2014 Wed 05:47 pm

 

Quoting yuwen

Oh, I mean "r" sounds like "ş" (in the previous message, I use "sh" to present "ş".  In the video:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZYsNXTloFg&index=9&list=PLDOlE-jNL3MoQ2D1a4Q7swqs-ZfbZaTF1

The phrase "Ne Kadar", the ending "r" sounds like "ş".

 

I totally know where you are coming from. I believe this could be a variation in Turkish accents. I was listening to something from Sila recently and I thought she was singing a word ending with ş but I looked it up and it was a word ending in ´r´.

My suggestion for pronouncing the sound is you could add a little air after the ´r´ but if you leave it to how you pronounce it as you would in English, you will be fine. 

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10.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 10 Jul 2014 Thu 02:06 am

 

Quoting yuwen

Merhaba!  

I´m quite confused about the sound of "r" when it´s the last letter in a word.  For example, 

bir,  from video, it sounds like "beesh" for me.  How to speak the tailing "r´?   Thanks.

It is an urban myth. Just a sound illusion

 

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