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Suffix ´dik´ with additional suffixes
1.       ETurgut1974
11 posts
 27 Jul 2017 Thu 02:27 pm

Hello,

 

i am am working on some advanced Turkish grammar, but need a little help.

 

Can someone please help explain the uses for these a little better. I understand dik+de (locative) to use in the meaning of ´when´.

ex. Geldiinde - when you came

      Gittiimizde - when we went

 

what I am unclear of is the difference between

dik+ possessive 

dik + i (accusative)

dik + e (dative)

 

 

From what I have read in the "patterns of dik" by Mehmet111 it isn´t clear to me of the English equivalent.

 

thank you

 

2.       denizli
961 posts
 27 Jul 2017 Thu 11:11 pm

There´s really no difference. It´s all about grammatical construction. It´s like in English consider: he got away with it and he got back to it. What is the difference here between ´with´ and ´to´?

In all (or maybe most) cases dik requires a possessive suffix. Even with Geldiinde, the possessive suffix is there, in (Gel + dik + in + de).

 

I heard him sing.

ark覺 söylediini duydum.

Here i is the possessive. And (n)i is the accusative, because duymak requires it.

 

I can´t believe we won.

Kazand覺覺m覺za inanam覺yorum.

Here 覺m覺z is the possessive ending. And a is the dative, because inanmak requires it.

 



Edited (7/27/2017) by denizli

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3.       ETurgut1974
11 posts
 27 Jul 2017 Thu 11:40 pm

Thank you.

so it appears the the following verb determines which suffix (accusative, dative, etc) is attached to ´dik´ .

 

i presume I will just learn these in time....or is there some logic or rule as to which is required?

 

 

4.       denizli
961 posts
 29 Jul 2017 Sat 03:08 pm

Most of the verbs aren´t too hard to learn. But some are different. For example:

Konserden holand覺m.

I enjoyed the concert.

 

This one is dik + den

Tom nereye gittiinden bahsetmedi.

Tom didn´t mention where he´d gone.



Edited (7/29/2017) by denizli

5.       JNQ
465 posts
 31 Jul 2017 Mon 04:37 pm

 

Quoting denizli

 

In all (or maybe most) cases dik requires a possessive suffix. Even with Geldiinde, the possessive suffix is there, in (Gel + dik + in + de).

 

"in" is not possessive suffix, the -n is a buffer -n. Just the i is possessive.

(Gel + dik + i + n + de)

 

6.       denizli
961 posts
 31 Jul 2017 Mon 05:27 pm

 

Quoting JNQ

 

"in" is not possessive suffix, the -n is a buffer -n. Just the i is possessive.

(Gel + dik + i + n + de)

 

 

In this context it is ´in´. Because it´s second person.

Geldiinde - when you came

 

Gel + dik + i + n + de would be when he/she/came, and still written the same

7.       JNQ
465 posts
 04 Aug 2017 Fri 02:02 pm

Right, I was referring to Tom

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8.       JJL
3 posts
 24 Aug 2017 Thu 12:26 pm

hello! I´ve finished all lessons indexed in the Classes page of the site, they stop at the present simple tense at intermediate 1 level.. I can´t find any other lessons so anybody knows where I should go from there? 

9.       Faruk
1607 posts
 24 Aug 2017 Thu 03:25 pm

 

Quoting JJL

hello! I´ve finished all lessons indexed in the Classes page of the site, they stop at the present simple tense at intermediate 1 level.. I can´t find any other lessons so anybody knows where I should go from there? 

 

Try lessons written by teachers. Some teachers have classes you are looking for.

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