Well,in fact it was yesterday,not today,,lol

İ thought sharing what we learn with each other,would make us spot things,maybe we saw,but we didn't pay much attention to it,so

İ've learnt 2 things really

1. There is 2 forms of y (e) suffix
not each y (e) indicates optative

Means...

konuşmak...means to talk

Eylem + y(a) + (y) kişi eki

Konuş + a + y + ım

Konuşayım ..means let me talk .....optative

BUT....

Eylem + (y)A Eylem + (y)A

Konuş + a konuş + a ......continue doing something

Konuşa konuşa ....means continue talking

Example,

Konuşa konuşa Türkçe unutmamış

means continue speaking Türkish won't make him forget


2. İ've learnt too,that not every (se) suffix is conditional

There are 2 forms too from (se) suffix

1)Eylem + sA + kişi eki ......means i hope

Eylem + sA + kişi eki + mI ? .....means i wonder

Examples,

Keşke bütün insanlar barış içinde yaşasalar
Means ..İ hope whole humans live in peace

Acaba bugün sinemaya gitsem mi ?
Means..İ wonder do i go to the cinema

We can use words like Keşke and acaba in those meanings,and here (sA) comes directly after the verb stem,and not acompany with any zaman eki,no tense with it


2) Eylem + zaman eki + y + sA + kişi eki ....means conditinal form


Example,

Konuştuysam.....means if i talked
Konuşuyorsam.....if i am talking

Note here (sA) suffix came after the tense suffix,after zaman eki

Eylem + zaman eki + y + sA + kişi eki
Konuş + tu (dI ) + y + sa + m
Konuş + yor + sa + m

Last thing,both conditinal (sA) and wishing (sA) take kişi eki 'personal pronouns' same like Geçmiş zaman 'past tense'takes

Ben.....m
Sen.....n
O....... -
Biz...... k
siz.......nIz
Onlar..... lAr

Doğru mu ?

Tebrikler...

Corrections and explanations below:

Bit to complex for me yet think I ll keep on with the childrens books etc

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm me to ,too much info all at once, my brain overloaded

Anladım,tşk ederim

But i can still use it this way ,doğru mu ?

Sen burda bekleye bekleye, ben bir şey alıp geleceğim

İt is only a matter of way of talking and preferables,right ?

And what do you mean old Türkish , Osmanlı,'ottomanlı,sry i prefer to call it its name Osmanlı' ?

İ didn't get really why kişi eki have changed with (dı and (sa) than other tenses

And last thing,i knew we can have some usage with onlar as same as O in suffix,but we should mention onlar ,and thanks to you,i knew why now
But,i didn't know we can use this with tenses too, so can we say

onlar gidiyor ,onlar gidecek for examples ?

Çok Tşk

bundan dolayi benden daha akilisin bod , i dont even understand what is being said :-S ama deli delidir