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ST LOV
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04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:04 pm |
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Anyone else heard of this? ST LOV .... meaning.... S ubject T ime L ocation O bject V erb. I think this is a useful tool to use when learning how to construct a sentence. Anyone else used this theory? And did it help you? 
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04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:06 pm |
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yes i've heard of it..it is useful..sometimes..but my word order still gets muddled 
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07 Oct 2006 Sat 12:23 am |
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that works i guess
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07 Oct 2006 Sat 12:38 am |
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No never heard of it before.
That indicates the sentence order Türkçede ?
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07 Oct 2006 Sat 10:59 am |
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Quoting SWEET-HEART: Anyone else heard of this? ST LOV .... meaning.... S ubject T ime L ocation O bject V erb. I think this is a useful tool to use when learning how to construct a sentence. Anyone else used this theory? And did it help you? |
Good but not a rule i think.
I wrote something about this topic but I don't remember where.
The best choice is always:
1. to keep verb at last.
2. don't use personal pronoun subjects if not necessary
3. put the group which you stress just before the verb
For example;
I have a sentence, and i build my sentence with your advice:
Ahmet bugün havaalanında bavulunu unuttu
Ahmet forgot his luggage at the airport today.
This is ok, but if you want to emphasize the subject;
Hey, who forgot?
Bugün havaalanında bavulunu Ahmet unuttu
if you want to express the time Ahmet forgot:
When did he forget?
Ahmet havaalanında bavulunu bugün unuttu
What if the most important thing is the location?
Where did he forget?
Ahmet bugün bavulunu havaalanında unuttu
or what did he forget?
Ahmet bugün havaalanında bavulunu unuttu
By the way; the others can be changeble;
Ahmet havaalanında bugün bavulunu unuttu
Ahmet havaalanında bavulunu bugün unuttu
Ahmet bavulunu havaalanında bugün unuttu
Bugün Ahmet havaalanında bavulunu unuttu
Bugün havaalanında Ahmet bavulunu unuttu
Bavulunu Ahmet havaalanında bugün unuttu
Bavulunu havaalanında Ahmet bugün unuttu
Havaalanında Ahmet bavulunu bugün unuttu
Havaalanında bavulunu Ahmet bugün unuttu
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That means, combinations let you make 4!=24 different sentences which has same meaning, and you can change the place of verb too, than it will be more than this...
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07 Oct 2006 Sat 11:07 am |
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Quoting caliptrix:
By the way; the others can be changeble;
Ahmet havaalanında bugün bavulunu unuttu
Ahmet havaalanında bavulunu bugün unuttu
Ahmet bavulunu havaalanında bugün unuttu
Bugün Ahmet havaalanında bavulunu unuttu
Bugün havaalanında Ahmet bavulunu unuttu
Bavulunu Ahmet havaalanında bugün unuttu
Bavulunu havaalanında Ahmet bugün unuttu
Havaalanında Ahmet bavulunu bugün unuttu
Havaalanında bavulunu Ahmet bugün unuttu
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That means, combinations let you make 4!=24 different sentences which has same meaning, and you can change the place of verb too, than it will be more than this... |
Isn't it 5!=120?
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07 Oct 2006 Sat 11:10 am |
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As I told, the verb should be at last, otherwise, sure it will be 5!
I don't write always litetature and poems
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07 Oct 2006 Sat 11:14 am |
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Quoting caliptrix: As I told, the verb should be at last, otherwise, sure it will be 5!
I don't write always litetature and poems |
Only poems and literature? Colloquial speech? Sayings?
Ayıkla pirincin taşını
Tut kelin perçeminden
etc
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07 Oct 2006 Sat 11:15 am |
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yes, now ayıkla pirincin taşını 
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07 Oct 2006 Sat 11:31 am |
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Quoting caliptrix:
3. put the group which you stress just before the verb
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Hmmm this is the same that you can do when questioning something, right? Put the word that you wanna stress just before the "mi, mı, mu, mü"?
for example:
for the sentence "Sofi şimdi kahve içiyor"
* Sofi mi şimdi kahve içiyor?
* Sofi şimdi kahve içiyor mu?
* Sofi şimdi mi kahve içiyor?
* Sofi şimdi kahve mi içiyor?
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