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Turkish girls!!!
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 09:56 pm |
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Quoting alameda: This aggressive attack on Islamic values and insult to those who are most revered in Islam is way way out of line, and VERY much against Forum Rules.
I think the reason the "rules" were implemented was to prohibit just such activity. There isn't enough time or space here to get into religious debate. It's a very deep subject and few here are educated enough to delve into it.
One thing for sure is you don't see in Turkey are the elderly abandoned to Senior care facilities while their children have "more important" things to do. Children enjoy the love and care of an extended family/village, not profit driven child care centers. Food is created by people who have an interest in the health of those who partake of it, not the profit of the sale of a manufactured for profit commodity.
Think about it.
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Please put me in a nursing home when I am elderly and unable to take care of myself. I would never put that burden on my children. I believe the parent's job is to raise their children, not to have their children stop their lives to take care of me. Just my thought.
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 09:57 pm |
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Quoting alameda: The men converted to Islam and are close to the women's families. |
a really nice happy end, alameda! 
we should all seek to convert to islam to be happy
btw, does it also often happen the other way round? muslim men converting into christianity or other religions? or muslim women converting into other religions?
if so whats the reaction of their muslim families?
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:00 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting alameda: The men converted to Islam and are close to the women's families. |
a really nice happy end, alameda!
we should all seek to convert to islam to be happy
btw, does it also often happen the other way round? muslim men converting into christianity or other religions? or muslim women converting into other religions?
if so whats the reaction of their muslim families? |
It is not common in the states to convert to Muslim, who ever is painting this picture, is totally incorrect. Same as Muslim men converting into Christians, very few.
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:01 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: I wonder how many times femme has actually been to Turkey.
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i dont need to fly to the moon in order to state that theres a moon.
i dont need to live in the times of prophets to know the religions.
so if you been there 4 times not 10, it means you would know the things 6 times lesser?
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:04 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: It is not common in the states to convert to Muslim, who ever is painting this picture, is totally incorrect. |
Let's hope you are right. 
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:11 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip1: It is not common in the states to convert to Muslim, who ever is painting this picture, is totally incorrect. |
Let's hope you are right. |
teas, right to some extent. theres a huge propaganda that manipulates with numbers. most of them are myths with no real statistics support, used by different reliogious orgs.
e.g. islamic orgs in usa amidst them cair claim that there were 6 million converts within a few years after 9/11 i.e. of course a huge bubble myth.
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:24 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: ..............
Please put me in a nursing home when I am elderly and unable to take care of myself. I would never put that burden on my children. I believe the parent's job is to raise their children, not to have their children stop their lives to take care of me. Just my thought. |
Careful what you wish for Teaschip1, you might just get it. I've seen those facilities that "care" for the elderly and they are horror chambers to say the least!
I used to do volunteer for an organization that visited the elderly in their homes in New York City. It broke my heart it was so tragic.
My job was just to offer company and companionship. Sit and watch TV and visit or listen to their stories. Many of them had children who lived far away and hadn't seen them for years.
New York had great social services at that time. There were house cleaners, meals on wheels to visit them. They still just needed somebody to visit them. I used to think how tragic that these people had raised a family, but the only one visiting them now was me, a stranger.
I would not want to be a burden either, but then children are burdens also. Certainly carrying them 9 months and looking after them for 18 years is a lot of work. I think the integration of the whole family unit through all it's seasons is a healthy family.
Children learn about growing older at an early age. They are not shocked by being segregated into not only color, class, ethnicity, but age they learn from the elders and the elders learn and are kept young by the exposure to the youthful energy.
It has not really been noticed yet, but Senior Communities are really another type of ghetto that robs society of a valuable treasure and blinds society to the reality of life.
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:27 pm |
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I am only reporting truthfully what I have seen. I made no value judgements, but reported what I witnessed. If it bothers you, hey that's too bad.
Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting alameda: The men converted to Islam and are close to the women's families. |
a really nice happy end, alameda!
we should all seek to convert to islam to be happy
btw, does it also often happen the other way round? muslim men converting into christianity or other religions? or muslim women converting into other religions?
if so whats the reaction of their muslim families? |
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:27 pm |
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I agree with Alameda (about nursing homes)! Finally!!! 
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:30 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting alameda: The men converted to Islam and are close to the women's families. |
a really nice happy end, alameda!
we should all seek to convert to islam to be happy
btw, does it also often happen the other way round? muslim men converting into christianity or other religions? or muslim women converting into other religions?
if so whats the reaction of their muslim families? |
for peace here,i think you all need to convert,i recomend you Budism or Judaism,escpecially for Dudus 
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13 Nov 2007 Tue 10:32 pm |
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I can only speak from my own experiences, I had the "burden" of growing up with my Grandmother living with me. I learned to sew, garden, cook, I learned the wonderful stories of her past and the history of my family. She even taught me how to read music and play the mandolin. Now my mother is disabled and my son has that same burden to look forward to. My healthcare career started by working in a nursing home and if my son ever puts me in a nursing home, when I die I will rise up from the grave and haunt his every waking moment!!
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