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Should Türkiye (Turkey) be ready to join European Union (EU) ?
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70.       lemon
1374 posts
 31 Dec 2010 Fri 05:59 am

 

Quoting yilgun-2010

Yes, Türkiye must join EU.

EU needs Türkiye.

 

Disagree!

EU is a rottening apple.

71.       yilgun-2010
572 posts
 01 Jan 2011 Sat 03:46 pm

Türk Basınından: From the Turkish Press.
1 OCAK 2011

To whom it may concern =
An article as 01 Jan 2011 Sat from The Turkish Press:Hürriyet, By Yılmaz Özdil

“1 OCAK

1 Ocak 1958  :  AB (EU) kuruldu : The European Community established in 1958.
1959             :  Türkiye başvurdu : Türkiye’s application to accede to the European Union was made on 1959.
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1 OCAK 2011…”

What do you think?

P.S.

It is clear EU has no good intention?I don´t know why?

I think Türkiye is not ready to join the EU and The EU is not ready to approve Türkiye for the time being.

Because France can say “No”.

But Türkiye’s Western Soul aims to build a society (like Turkish European Hun Empire and Turkish European Ottoman Empire in the past) Europe cannot refuse.

The true Historians know it very well.

Because Türkiye has become increasingly integrated with the West through membership in organizations such as the Council of Europe, NATO, OECD, OSCE and the G-20 major economies.  

And Türkiye began full membership negotiations with the European Union in 2005, having been an associate member of the European Economic Community since 1963 and having reached a customs union agreement in 1995.

And Türkiye have also fostered close cultural, political, economic and industrial relations with The Middle East, the Turkic states of Central Asia ( 5 Turkish Countries: Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan,  Kyrgystan , Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan, Cyprus (Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus) and the African countries through membership in organizations such as the Organisation of the Islamic  Conference and the Economic Cooperation Organization as a major regional power.

 



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72.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Jan 2011 Sun 08:13 am

Stop wasting your time on EU-Turkia relations Yilgun. Concentrate on "short anectodes in Turkish" by AlphaF

73.       si++
3785 posts
 02 Jan 2011 Sun 09:41 am

On December 16 and 17, 2010, the heads of state and government of the 27 EU countries met at the European Council in Brussels. The summit focused especially on a common European economic policy and, to a lesser extent, on relations with the EU´s strategic partners.

 

A period the Turkish accession candidate already experienced but without considerable output concerning its potential membership. The negotiations with Turkey are not going well as demonstrated again by the refusal to open any new negotiation chapter during Belgium´s presidency. The Council Conclusions on Enlargement/ Stabilization and Process adopted by the council formation on General Affairs on 14 December noted that Turkey made good progress toward the fulfillment of the opening benchmarks in the field of Competition Policy and that the Council will revert to this chapter as soon as all benchmarks are met. The opening and successful negotiation of 35 chapters of the so called acquis communautaire are precondition for full membership in the EU; Turkey has only been able to open 13 chapters of which one had been closed since 2005. To bear in mind, the fulfillment of such benchmarks as well as of the Copenhagen criteria is in general not objectively measurable and assessments rely on rather subjective estimations by the European side.

In the light of lacking progress concerning these negotiations one might raise to question why the European Union opened alone in 2010 accession negotiations with two new candidates although negotiations with Turkey are stuck and despite the fact that their accession (negotiations) will have an impact on the EU´s absorption capacity. Their admission could influence the prospect for Turkey´s accession that is candidate for a longer time and deserves therefore privileged treatment; otherwise the EU members could arouse suspicion of dealing dishonestly with Turkey´s ambition.

 

Source: here

74.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Jan 2011 Sun 04:04 pm

What you must understand is that admittance of Turkia into EU highly improbable, as such an admittance is very likely to bring EU and USA/ISRAEL into conflict.

Upon admittance, EU will have to jointly guarantee Turkia´s national borders against adverse outside operations; that may not go very well with USA and ISRAEL´s current plans on Middle East.

75.       yilgun-2010
572 posts
 05 Jan 2011 Wed 02:57 am

Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Devleti  (Republic of Turkey – Ankara) is a democratic, secular, unitary, constitutional republic, with an ancient cultural heritage (300 BC- Today AD) :

(Great Hun Empire, Western Hun Empire, European Hun Empire, Ak-White- Hun Empire,

Göktürk Empire, Avar Empire, Khazar Empire, Uighur Empire, Karahanlı State, Gazneli Sultanate, Greater Seljuk Empire, Anatolian Seljuk State, Kharzem Shah State, The Golden Horde State, Greater Timur Empire, Babur Empire, Ottoman Empire, 30 Turkish unities in Asia, Balkans and Europe and Republic of Turkey).

Türkiye has become increasingly integrated with the West through membership in organizations such as the Council of Europe, NATO, OECD, OSCE and the G-20 major economies.

Türkiye began full membership negotiations with the European Union in 2005, having been an associate member of the European Economic Community since 1963 and having reached a customs union agreement in 1995.

Türkiye have also fostered close cultural, political, economic and industrial relations with

- The Middle East, the Turkic states of Central Asia ( 5 Turkish Countries: Uzbekistan – Taşkent , Kazakhstan – Astana,  Kyrgystan – Bishkek , Turkmenistan – Asgabat, and Azerbaijan – Baki),

- Kıbrıs (Cyprus)  (Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus – lefkoşe –Nicosia-.

-  and the African countries through membership in organizations such as the Organisation of the Islamic  Conference and the Economic Cooperation Organization.

Given its strategic location –between Asia and Europe- as a bridge, large as well as powerful economy  and army, Turkey is classified as a major regional power.



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76.       og2009
409 posts
 12 Dec 2012 Wed 12:47 am

EUROPEAN UNİON  EU    AVRUPA TOPLULUĞU - AB
As you knuw:
-European Union (EU) is an economic and political union of 27 member states which are located primarily in Europe.
-The European Union is composed of 27 sovereign member states: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom. The Union´s membership has grown from the original six founding states—Belgium, France, (then-West) Germany, Italy, Luxembourg and the Netherlands—to the present-day 27 by successive enlargements as countries acceded to the treaties and by doing so, pooled their sovereignty in exchange for representation in the institutions.]
-There are five candidate countries: Iceland, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Türkiye.
-Albania and Bosnia and Herzegovina are officially recognised as potential candidates.
Kosovo is also listed as a potential candidate but the European Commission does not list it as an independent country because not all member states recognise it as an independent country separate from Serbia.
Three main questions?
1-Should Türkiye (Turkey) be ready to join the EU?
2-What would happen if Britain left the EU?
3-What are the Norway and Switzerland missions in Europe?

77.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 12 Dec 2012 Wed 01:10 am

EU doesn´t deserve me for now

78.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 12 Dec 2012 Wed 05:20 am

Avrupa avrupada dursun, Türkiye türkiyede dursun. Çıkarlarımıza uygun olduğu kadar işbirliği yapalım. Avrupa birliğini kendi haline bırakalım, biz de kendi yolumuzda kendi bildiğimiz gibi yaşamaya devam edelim. Avrupa kriterlerini uygulamak için avrupa birliğine girmek gerekmiyor, bize uygun kriterleri avrupadan ve dünyanın başka yerlerinden de alabilir ve uygulayabiliriz.

Artık avrupa birliğine girme lafını işitmek istemiyorum. Umarım avrupa birliğine girmek gibi bir hata yapmayız.



Edited (12/12/2012) by ikicihan

79.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 12 Dec 2012 Wed 10:19 am

 

Quoting ikicihan

Avrupa avrupada dursun, Türkiye türkiyede dursun. Çıkarlarımıza uygun olduğu kadar işbirliği yapalım. Avrupa birliğini kendi haline bırakalım, biz de kendi yolumuzda kendi bildiğimiz gibi yaşamaya devam edelim. Avrupa kriterlerini uygulamak için avrupa birliğine girmek gerekmiyor, bize uygun kriterleri avrupadan ve dünyanın başka yerlerinden de alabilir ve uygulayabiliriz.

Artık avrupa birliğine girme lafını işitmek istemiyorum. Umarım avrupa birliğine girmek gibi bir hata yapmayız.

 

 +1

80.       og2009
409 posts
 12 Dec 2012 Wed 12:43 pm

İkicihan diyor ki:

"Avrupa kriterlerini uygulamak için avrupa birliğine girmek gerekmiyor, bize uygun kriterleri avrupadan ve dünyanın başka yerlerinden de alabilir ve uygulayabiliriz."

Evet doğru.Şimdi sizlere biraz da hukukta sözedeyim.

Türk kanunlarının kaynağı Avrupa ülkelerinin mevcut yasalarıdır, yani Türk kanunları büyük ölçüde o yasalardan alınmıştır.Türk Ceza Kanunundan tutun, Türk Medeni Kanunu, Türk Ticaret Kanunu ve Türkiyedeki muhasebe usul ve standartlarına kadar. 

Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Anayasası´nın 90.maddesine göre, Türkiye´de yürürlüğe girmiş bütün uluslararası anlaşmalar, örneğin İnsan Hakları Evrensel Beyannamesi, Avrupa İnsan Hakları Mahkemesi kararları, Gümrük Birliği uygulamaları, Futbol Sporu uygulamaları, Trafik Kuralları ve diğer Avrupa Birliği sözleşmeleri, kanun hükmündendir, yani Türkiye Cumhuriyeti kanunları gibi aynen Türkiye´de de uygulanmaktadır..

Avrupa Birliği kanunları, mevzuatı, Avrupa İnsan Hakları Mahkemesi´nin hukuk ilkeleri ve içtihatları, Avrupa Birliği Uyum yasaları bağlamında büyük ölçüde Türkiye´de de uygulanmaktadır.

Çevirmenlik mesleği, dil bilgisi-gramer- ve dil bilim kural, usul ve esasları bile Türkiye´ye batıdan özellikle Fransızca´dan gelmiştir? 

   



Edited (2/15/2013) by og2009
Edited (2/15/2013) by og2009

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