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headscarf was still a social problem
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 01:36 am |
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The mutavvas are generally funny, but can become a real nuisance for Resident Engineers running construction contracts in Saudi Arabia.
It is necessary - for certain reasons- that the direction of Mecca should be established before any construction project is kicked off, and a permanent marking monument be kept on site, for everybody's refence.
The duty to check the correctness of these monuments belong to Mutavva.
A good Resident Engineer who has the necessary equipment asks his surveyor to measure the angles and prepare the necessary monument, in advance.
Then arrives the 100 years old Mutavva, who is absolutely blind, to check and verify the monument.
The old Mutavva will have absolutely no respect for modern surveying equipment nor for topographical engineers. He will insist the direction he shows by his right hand is the correct one, regardless of what survey results indicate.
Mutavvas instructions are verbal (no records), But the RE is of course ultimately responsible.
If the survey result and Mutavva's instruction do not match, they all have a ball until the difference is resolved, and the construction may wait for the whole period.
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 01:38 am |
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interesting.
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 01:51 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: The mutavvas are generally funny, but can become a real nuisance for Resident Engineers running construction contracts in Saudi Arabia.
It is necessary - for certain reasons- that the direction of Mecca should be established before any construction project is kicked off, and a permanent marking monument be kept on site, for everybody's refence.
The duty to check the correctness of these monuments belong to Mutavva.
A good Resident Engineer who has the necessary equipment asks his surveyor to measure the angles and prepare the necessary monument, in advance.
Then arrives the 100 years old Mutavva, who is absolutely blind, to check and verify the monument.
The old Mutavva will have absolutely no respect for modern surveying equipment nor for topographical engineers. He will insist the direction he shows by his right hand is the correct one, regardless of what survey results indicate.
Mutavvas instructions are verbal (no records), But the RE is of course ultimately responsible.
If the survey result and Mutavva's instruction do not match, they all have a ball until the difference is resolved, and the construction may wait for the whole period. |
You got a reference there Alfie?  Or did you make it all up?? 
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 01:55 am |
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The story is straight from experience.....do not adress me again with this tone, unless you want to be ignored. I warned you before...
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 01:57 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: The mutavvas are generally funny, but can become a real nuisance for Resident Engineers running construction contracts in Saudi Arabia.
It is necessary - for certain reasons- that the direction of Mecca should be established before any construction project is kicked off, and a permanent marking monument be kept on site, for everybody's refence.
The duty to check the correctness of these monuments belong to Mutavva.
A good Resident Engineer who has the necessary equipment asks his surveyor to measure the angles and prepare the necessary monument, in advance.
Then arrives the 100 years old Mutavva, who is absolutely blind, to check and verify the monument.
The old Mutavva will have absolutely no respect for modern surveying equipment nor for topographical engineers. He will insist the direction he shows by his right hand is the correct one, regardless of what survey results indicate.
Mutavvas instructions are verbal (no records), But the RE is of course ultimately responsible.
If the survey result and Mutavva's instruction do not match, they all have a ball until the difference is resolved, and the construction may wait for the whole period. |
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:01 am |
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Quoting Waseem_UK: You got a reference there Alfie? Or did you make it all up?? |
Waseem, you may not know that Alfa is a peanut (according to some members, it's a very honorable fruit, but don't confuse these two)... :-S
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:02 am |
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What does your first smiley stand for?
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:08 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: The story is straight from experience.....do not adress me again with this tone, unless you want to be ignored. I warned you before... |
Well excuse me then Alpha - I hope that's correct. So you are a retired RE? Or is that too nosey?
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:12 am |
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I am not retired yet, very soon !
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:20 am |
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ha ha
similar thing happened to me as well actually..
It was in pakistan..and we built this camp site and of course we had to built a mosque as well..
Of course, I asked where kibla was to the surveyors before the construction of the mosque..and they gave us the direction and we built it..
People started praying in it etc etc..
But when the RE came to the site the problem started..
The first thing he did was, he sent his own surveyors to check the position of the mosque..
And the result was..It was off 17 degrees!! 
After a bit of arm bending, threatining(begging) etc, we settled that the carpets would be laid with 17 degrees to the layout of the mosque so that people could face macca..Phew!!
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 02:21 am |
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yurtta barış dünyada barış
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