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headscarf was still a social problem
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 11:15 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting GatewaytoTR:
And you think it is a sin to wear hijab in public places
So, what is the difference? |
I never said that But can you say 'not wearing hijab is NOT SINFUL'? |
You believe that there should be a certain code of dressing in public spaces and that is why a girl with head scarf can not work in a public building. And I believe that you can not set the limits for dressing because people belong to different cultures and religious beliefs. I emphasize the respect for diversity. So how can I say "not wearing hijab is sinful"?
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 11:16 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting GatewaytoTR: I live in USA where people are allowed to study and work with their headscarf or with any other religious or cultural dressing. In this country we do not look at what do you wear and what do you believe in. We look at how hardworking you are. This the secret, I think, that makes USA a super power. We respect diversity. Where I work there is a girl with head scarf and there is a a very religious jewish guy.. |
You live in a dream world. If what you said were true, it would be wonderful, however the actual fact of the matter is if you are a Muslim woman walking in the US with full hijab, you can be in very serious danger.
Very few businesses would allow a woman to wear a hijab. Most have dress codes that must be followed.
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At least in the US they have the FREEDOM to wear it and not have it banned by the state, well not yet.
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 11:24 pm |
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That is all I can say on this topic. Like the author of the 2 articles that I posted, I do not believe in authoritarian secularism because I was raised in a culture where differences are seen richness. But in Turkey as far as I know differences are seen very very dangerous. That is why Kurds, religious people, Armenians, missionaries, etc are seen dangerous.I think you should relax.
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 11:45 pm |
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Quoting GatewaytoTR: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting GatewaytoTR:
And you think it is a sin to wear hijab in public places
So, what is the difference? |
I never said that But can you say 'not wearing hijab is NOT SINFUL'? |
You believe that there should be a certain code of dressing in public spaces and that is why a girl with head scarf can not work in a public building. And I believe that you can not set the limits for dressing because people belong to different cultures and religious beliefs. I emphasize the respect for diversity. So how can I say "not wearing hijab is sinful"?
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I already told why hijab should not be worn in public buildings in my earlier posts..And I stick to what I wrote.
"not wearing hijab is sinful" issue:
If it is not sinful NOT TO WEAR HIJAB, why are they wearing it then?
Do you want me to dig the cases from the net what they do to the girls wearing mini skirts in deeply religious areas?
or how they treat people who eat during ramadan?
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 11:48 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom:
I already told why hijab should not be worn in public buildings in my earlier posts..And I stick to what I wrote.
"not wearing hijab is sinful" issue:
If it is not sinful, why are they wearing it then?
Do you want me to dig the cases from the net what they do to the girls wearing mini skirts in deeply religious areas?
or how they treat people who eat during ramadan?
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So is banning hijab the solution or education?
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 11:53 pm |
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Get onto a new topic, please, after a while it gets boring....
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 11:58 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting GatewaytoTR: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting GatewaytoTR:
And you think it is a sin to wear hijab in public places
So, what is the difference? |
I never said that But can you say 'not wearing hijab is NOT SINFUL'? |
You believe that there should be a certain code of dressing in public spaces and that is why a girl with head scarf can not work in a public building. And I believe that you can not set the limits for dressing because people belong to different cultures and religious beliefs. I emphasize the respect for diversity. So how can I say "not wearing hijab is sinful"?
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I already told why hijab should not be worn in public buildings in my earlier posts..And I stick to what I wrote.
"not wearing hijab is sinful" issue:
If it is not sinful, why are they wearing it then?
Do you want me to dig the cases from the net what they do to the girls wearing mini skirts in deeply religious areas?
or how they treat people who eat during ramadan?
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Empathy is the answer. They can belive that it is a religious rule. You do not have to believe in the same thing but you should respect their belif. You have your own truth and they have their own truths. That is called diversity. As you can not punish all the Kurds because of what PKK does, you can not banish all the girls with head scarf because of what some religious people think.
Ok, this is my final post for this lively topic.
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11 Jan 2008 Fri 12:04 am |
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Quoting Waseem_UK: Quoting thehandsom:
I already told why hijab should not be worn in public buildings in my earlier posts..And I stick to what I wrote.
"not wearing hijab is sinful" issue:
If it is not sinful, why are they wearing it then?
Do you want me to dig the cases from the net what they do to the girls wearing mini skirts in deeply religious areas?
or how they treat people who eat during ramadan?
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So is banning hijab the solution or education? |
haha
I have different ideas for the solution
But I am not intending to reveal it
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11 Jan 2008 Fri 12:07 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting Waseem_UK:
So is banning hijab the solution or education? |
haha
I have different ideas for the solution
But I am not intending to reveal it |
It would certainly be interesting to know what you propose....
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11 Jan 2008 Fri 12:26 am |
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Quoting Roswitha: Did they catch the killer, who was he? |
FREMONT -- A plea hearing for the man suspected in the killing of Fremont resident Alia Ansari was delayed until April 20 to give his attorney more time to review evidence.
Urango's hearing delayed until April
That is the last news I can find regarding this case. Sad, very very sad.
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11 Jan 2008 Fri 06:13 pm |
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Quoting alameda: You live in a dream world. If what you said were true, it would be wonderful, however the actual fact of the matter is if you are a Muslim woman walking in the US with full hijab, you can be in very serious danger.
Very few businesses would allow a woman to wear a hijab. Most have dress codes that must be followed.
she was distinguished by a hijab
"Killed Thursday by a single bullet to the head as she walked with her 3-year-old daughter on a well-to-do residential street, she was distinguished by a hijab, the head scarf worn by some devout Muslim women. The Afghan immigrant had no purse or money on her, family members said." |
And it seems you live in your own world.
Let me share a true story with you from aTurkish family I know in New York. A couple of days after 9/11 attacks, there was a lot of concern for muslims in NY for fear of backlash against them. One muslim women in the street in New York where my friend was, was very afraid to go out shopping or down to the street. To show solidarity and love, the women in her street - American non-Muslim woman - all got their scarves and covered their heads IN ORDER TO make that one muslim woman feel warm and welcome, to stop her fears.
THIS IS A TRUE STORY.
Please do not criticize without some more knowledge.
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