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14 Jan 2008 Mon 07:40 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: You are an optimist..They are not as dumb as you think... Quote:
I never said they were dumb. I said I did not know the answers. Stop changing your posts!!
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14 Jan 2008 Mon 08:13 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: .............I guess you have to assume that the average person is the majority and the extreme person is the minority...how is it that the extreme has so much power in our world right now...is it true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease? |
Some wheels are made to squeak by those who have interests in the outcome...it's an old story. Generaly there are several groups whose interests converge, making mass manipulation easier. Left alone, I think most people would not have such hostility towards their differences.
One day I saw a little 1 1/2 year old white boy (blond blue eyes) and a little 1 1/2 year black (eyes and skin like expresso) boy who obviously had never been exposed to each other's races. It was amazing to watch their discovery of each other. Their eyes got large and they carefully looked at each other, walking around each other with glee not fear or hostility.
Humans are social creatures (flock/herd animals) in reality. It's not that difficult to manipulate this built in feature of "us" and "them" deep seated emotions.
Those who have an interest in certain outcomes seek to manipulate public opinion by means of the process called Propaganda...........
Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behaviour to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.
– Garth S. Jowett and Victoria O'Donnell, Propaganda And Persuasion
"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
Hermann Goering, Hitler’s Reich Marshall, at the Nuremberg
Trials after World War II.
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14 Jan 2008 Mon 08:22 pm |
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My mother never lets me read Nazi stuff !
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14 Jan 2008 Mon 09:56 pm |
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Quoting Cacık: We could spend years throwing weblinks back at each other showing how the other side suffers.
You obviously cannot accept - you can't even write it - that phobia exists in the islam world towards anything non-islamic. For every post you retaliate with weblinks..... so I would prefer not to continue this debate.
You want to know why islamophobia exists, for precisely the reason you have shown, a refusal to see the other side, a refusal to see that you are not the only victims of persecution. You continue to shower us with statistics and websites without acknowledging that there is far more to it that your superficial view.
So as long as you are unable to enter equally into debate an accept that there is fault on all sides, you will always have islamophobia.
My last words because it is such a waste of my time ! |
years and years of weblinks.. and I believe your words are correct.. islamophobia.. 
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14 Jan 2008 Mon 10:08 pm |
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So true!!!!!
Quoting alameda:
"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
Hermann Goering, Hitler’s Reich Marshall, at the Nuremberg
Trials after World War II.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:22 am |
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Have a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZr0nj_uO_M&feature=related
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:26 am |
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Even better...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XxMQQLWwEeI&feature=related
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:30 am |
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I like niqabs because then I dont have to bother putting any make up on or worry about the degree of blackness under my eyes and I can diss people without them knowing it  
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:31 am |
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cok guzel!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Jc4_V-Elc
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:32 am |
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Quoting azade: or worry about the degree of blackness under my eyes |
Well, in that case there is NOTHİNG BUT blackness under your eyes!
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:36 am |
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Quoting Roswitha: cok guzel!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Jc4_V-Elc |
It is so funny !!! Correct me if I am WRONG but for a muslim woman the point of the headscarf is to "hide your adornments" and those women who CHOOSE to wear them say it is because of their deep faith. So please can someone tell me why these pictures show women with make up so thick you could scrape it off with a trowel, and jewellery??? 
Surely both jewellery and makeup are an adornment and accentuate your features, such as eyes. These women are merely covering their hair, but sexing up the rest!!!!!
It seems to me that it is less about deep faith and more about doing what you are told and trying to break the boundaries 
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