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How (not) to do it - Harams/helals
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:22 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting CANLI: Quoting thehandsom:
===please dont quote this joke..in case I need to erase it.. |
İ guess you do lolll
So its common you 'in Türkiye' make fun ,and jokes of prophets and ALLAH ?! |
Well not very common in these days I guess but at least in turkey we dont try to kill them because of these jokes.. |
We dont kill them too,but we dont say also !
İ mean im Muslim,at least i can say jokes about Christ,he is not İslams prophets,but i dont say
So i guess we get same respect from our Christians people.
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:26 am |
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Quoting CANLI: İ mean im Muslim,at least i can say jokes about Christ,he is not İslams prophets,but i dont say
So i guess we get same respect from our Christians people. |
I dont think the Danes got much respect 
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:33 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting CANLI:
Btw,you said there is many jokes about mohammed and religion in turkish language.
İm curios about it,so can you pls pm me some of them ?!
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Ok One of them goes like that (just came into my mind)
A beautiful and very sexy woman enters the heaven, But she is really something (like eve mendes)
three prophets start to argue who will get her..and they decide to throw dice.
First moses..5X5
Second Jesus..5X6
And Mohammed..he trows his dice and it is 6X6
Of course he gets very happy.. and just before he takes the woman,
a huge pair of dice roll from the sky: 7X7
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Please, really don't erase it, because this is a proof that you have no idea about "god" belief in Islam! 
God has no sex 
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:38 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting CANLI: İ mean im Muslim,at least i can say jokes about Christ,he is not İslams prophets,but i dont say
So i guess we get same respect from our Christians people. |
I dont think the Danes got much respect |
Actually,they got it alright,they get the MUTUAL respect
But,i was talking about prophets here in that post.
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:46 am |
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Quoting CANLI:
As if you are telling me its ok to insult your parents because they insult their parents ?!
Or its ok to allow them to insult your parents,because they insult theirs!
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I am not sure what you mean really with the parents example. I know the relations with the parents is a bit weak in west specially after boys/girls leave the house.
I have seen many disrespectful persons in the west and also in Turkey (in one occasion a boy was swearing to his father's wife strangly..how bizarre is that!!)..
Quoting CANLI:
Either ways,it will ALWAYS be wrong to insult parents ,wont it ?!
İ dont get your point about development tho !
Who is stopping you ?!
What is this got to do with İslam ?!
İn İslam ALLAH ordered us to learn,to search ...so who is stopping you ?!
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I am sorry but the entire faith 'accepting everything coming from allah and all is known to allah' is not acceptible for me. If everybody in the world thought years ago that dying from some disese was allah's decision and did not search for cure, most of us would not be alive today!!
What I am trying to say that 'faith and believing everything is happening according to what is written' MADE MUSLIMS LAZY..
I mean in the it is the main point of science to suspect everything and find a better solution!!
The idea of faith, kind of kills that point in Islam..
Quoting CANLI:
And i dont understand what do you mean by REFORM in islam ?!
How can we REFORM what ALLAH sent to us,and what we BELİEVE in, so by this we are Muslims ?!
REFORM islam rules you mean ?
Pick the suitable ones and leave the ones we dont like?!
İ actually dont understand what you mean!
You just cant REFORM a religion,religion is set of rules,you take it as they are,you cant REFORM it unless you are the one who have sent it !
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Well..There are very speculative entries in quran.. Hand chopping, equality of women etc..
They are not matching the era we live.. dont you agree?
There are many things need changing!!
if you say ..'NOOOO..it is what it says and we have to comply', it is a different matter
Quoting CANLI:
Sure insulting or couple of infidels' cartoons can not harm The Creator.
But they show LACK of respect !
You want Muslims to have cold blood and be cool when they hear insults to THEİR religion,and they should make fun of it too ?
That is how Muslims countries will be developed ?!
Would anyone hear someone insult his parents,and he would make fun of it ?!
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I never said that actually..if I said, I was misunderstood.
it is not cold blood I want..
Islam is in crisis..It needs to change somehow..It cant continue sending this negative image to the world as a religion, whose believers cant accept any criticism at all.
Islam needs to soften its image..
And insisting that 'oh but they are making fun of our prophet and our belief so I will try to stop them' is not helping!!
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:51 am |
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İm sleepy handsom its 4:50 am here and im waking up in mmm,2 hours :-S
So,i will reply tomorrow inşallah
Nite
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:55 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting CANLI: İ mean im Muslim,at least i can say jokes about Christ,he is not İslams prophets,but i dont say
So i guess we get same respect from our Christians people. |
I dont think the Danes got much respect |
There is something rotten in the Kingdom of Denmark. 
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:55 am |
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Quoting CANLI:
İm sleepy handsom its 4:50 am here and im waking up in mmm,2 hours :-S
So,i will reply tomorrow inşallah
Nite |
Nite nite canli..
Nice to argue with you actually
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 04:58 am |
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Have a good one too when you do
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 05:06 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting AlphaF:
On the contrary, I have a certain respect for PKK supporters fighting on the mountains. That does not stop me from disliking them, since I believe any kind of terrorist should be shot at sight, including Arab suicide bombers. It is the faceless, nameless cowards who keep barking at Turkia, from within the safety granted to them by Turkia - that I despise.
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I have been trying to avoid this but..
This is the WRONG way of thinking.
We have an unfortunate culture in turkey.
when somebody says 'Solution', people understand that 'hitting harder' (in the context of kurdish problem) or when somebody says compromise, people think 'it is something not for a -man like- us'.
Gods sake..These ideas have taken Turkey away from the real solution for the subject!!!
We Turks and Kurd are trying to find the way of living together. When you reduce this problem into simplest way..This is the problem..
If I am really thinking that I want to live with my neighbour, I will never think to kill them and all their kins etc...
There are still things in turkey need to change..
Unfortunately!! |
Read my god damn post first for god's sake...then request someone to explain it to you before you mumble anything !
My post is not about Turks and Kurds...It is about PKK terrorists.
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Well
I was mumbling about this 'shooting terrorist things' 
See, what is happening is in Turkey right now:
-we have terrorists..: fine..
-the solution..: we will go and finish them (as usual)..
-then some one says 'i went and killed 20 of them', everybody says 'BRAVO'
-then some one says 'I went there and killed 50 of them', of course, getting more cheers..or you have to say bravo twice..
I think something is not right there!!!
We have to think:
did 'killing 50 people instead of 20' bring us what we want?
What do we want: trying to find ways of living together..
YES?
So
Is those killings make our objective closer or far away?
I am sure they take us far way from our objective..
It was always the case ..from the begining!!
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18 Feb 2008 Mon 11:23 am |
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haram/helal?.. turk / kurd?.. pkk? whaaa?.. 
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