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A Feminist Islamic Reform in Turkey
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 01:21 am |
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Quarter of U.S. women suffer domestic violence: CDC
This was in the news today...for all those who think domestic relations in the USA have it so great and liberated.
It's also interesting to note:
....11.5 percent of men reported being a victim of what it called "intimate partner violence" at some time in their lives.
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 01:23 am |
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Quoting alameda: Quarter of U.S. women suffer domestic violence: CDC
This was in the news today...for all those who think domestic relations in the USA have it so great and liberated.
It's also interesting to note:
....11.5 percent of men reported being a victim of what it called "intimate partner violence" at some time in their lives. |
Poor men - 11.5 percent eh?!!!
Men will always beat women. At least in the US, those women have rights, a law that protects them and can run to a safe place without fear of death.
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 01:28 am |
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Cruel thing ya 
Are you testing my abilities to translate now? 
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 01:32 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III:
Cruel thing ya
Are you testing my abilities to translate now? |
aww..sorry ya..
I may translate some of it may be..
They asked the high school graduates why they could not continue with the higher education:
(below is for girls only)
-was not succesful at the exam: 29.8
-successful at the axam but got married so did not go : 14.6
-didnot take the exam, had to work : 14.0
-her family did not let her to go :10.5
-does not like school/education: 9.8
-now a studant : 9.8
-successful at the axam but financial problems : 6.2
-scared of anarchi : 2.2
-successful at the axam but uni was too far: 1.9
-because of Turban: 1.0
If it is true, the storm about turban in universities is for nothing!!
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 01:39 am |
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Handsom can you clarify something for me? Am I right in thinking that the headscarf ban only prevents women who will not follow the rule and compromise their belief from entering university. I know some get their education abroad rather than take off their scarf in a Turkish uni. I know several Turkish women who made the compromise and removed their scarves whilst in uni buildings.
My friend's parents were against her wearing the scarf when she decided to do so. Simply because they thought it would prevent her from going to uni. When they realised it didn't they were happier.
I know some male students have points deducted from their test, because of the high school they attend, so they aren't able to go to uni in Turkey. My friend's brother is now a med student in China!
Also, as a hair expert you may know the answer to another question. I thought I read somewhere that men are not allowed to wear beards, for the same sort of reason women are not allowed to wear scarves. Is this so?
Thanks
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 02:02 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting alameda: Quarter of U.S. women suffer domestic violence: CDC
This was in the news today...for all those who think domestic relations in the USA have it so great and liberated.
It's also interesting to note:
....11.5 percent of men reported being a victim of what it called "intimate partner violence" at some time in their lives. |
Poor men - 11.5 percent eh?!!!
Men will always beat women. At least in the US, those women have rights, a law that protects them and can run to a safe place without fear of death. |
There must be a better way. Women I've known who have gone to shelters didn't have it that easy either. Any domestic violence is too much...against men or woman.
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 02:06 am |
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R U still discussing this topic under the umbrella of Feminism? hmm, it's so funny... now i'm giving my speech to the Holy Quran. what does Quran says in the Surah of Light? please read the below and please close this topic as soon as possible...
"31. And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful."
as you have read that Quran doesn't mention anything about Turban or Headscarfs. This verse clearly states that women should protect their decency and not show their sexual organs (breasts, or bosoms) with their scarfs instead of hiding the hairs. In Arabia, women uses head-coverings to protect their heads from the hot sun, because of the climate. Consequently the Quran doesn't say strictly cover your heads. Please keep in mind that Quran never bans sexual relationships or sexuality, but IT calls the people to act rightly and respectfully.
In short, Quran wants the women to act rightly and to protect their chastity, NOT hiding the hair with a turban.
using turban or headscarf is not related to Islam and can't be identified as an individual freedom. using Turban is a reflection of ignorance and not knowing the context of Islam. Turban is used as a trump by the ignorant and USA-Israel supported Islamic politicians to exploit the people, to establish a state of Islam, to destroy the Kemalist Revolition, and to betray the Islam.
I hope some of the depressive Feminist ladiez will understand the real things about Turban problem in Turkey and stop discussing this topic.
cuz that's enough...
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 02:31 am |
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Quoting adonis:
as you have read that Quran doesn't mention anything about Turban or Headscarfs. . |
Ohhhhhh,NOT againnnn!
Quoting adonis:
that's enough... |
With THAT i agree,it has been disscused 1000000 timess
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 02:32 am |
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Quoting adonis: R U still discussing this topic under the umbrella of Feminism? hmm, it's so funny... now i'm giving my speech to the Holy Quran. what does Quran says in the Surah of Light? please read the below and please close this topic as soon as possible...
"31. And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful."
as you have read that Quran doesn't mention anything about Turban or Headscarfs. This verse clearly states that women should protect their decency and not show their sexual organs (breasts, or bosoms) with their scarfs instead of hiding the hairs. In Arabia, women uses head-coverings to protect their heads from the hot sun, because of the climate. Consequently the Quran doesn't say strictly cover your heads. Please keep in mind that Quran never bans sexual relationships or sexuality, but IT calls the people to act rightly and respectful.
In short, Quran wants the women to act rightly and to protect their chastity, NOT hiding the hair with a turban.
using turban or headscarf is not related to Islam and can't be identified as an individual freedom. using Turban is a reflection of ignorance and not knowing the context of Islam. Turban is used as a trump by the ignorant and USA-Israel supported Islamic politicians to exploit the people, to establish a state of Islam, to destroy the Kemalist Revolition, and to betray the Islam.
I hope some of the depressive Feminist ladiez will understand the real things about Turban problem in Turkey and stop discussing this topic.
cuz that's enough... |
Hijab is mentioned in the Qur'an several times but, you are right, not in the context that it should be a dress code for Muslim women.
So, if we have established that hijab/scarf is not a compulsory requirement for muslim women and merely a historical/cultural phenomenon, what is the problem in allowing women to wear what they want in public establishments in Turkey?
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08 Feb 2008 Fri 02:36 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting adonis:
as you have read that Quran doesn't mention anything about Turban or Headscarfs. . |
Ohhhhhh,NOT againnnn!
Quoting adonis:
that's enough... |
With THAT i agree,it has been disscused 1000000 timess |
+1000000000
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