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A Feminist Islamic Reform in Turkey
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140.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 01:00 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

AlphaF, no more !



and welcome adonis, turkish captain, c--

141.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:17 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting ciko:

Now please tell me...assume you are an headscarved girl in turkey.. which one is better? to accept such a fucking fate and stay at home and wait for your fucking monster uneducated husband..or to go to universty and gain your economical and social freedom and marry whoever you want!


Headscarves in universities!!!!! Lift the ban!!!!!



Finally someone understands me ya




I completely agree with you on this one Ciko (and sorry I disagree with you Femme! )

It is MORE IMPORTANT that all women have access to better education than it is to worry about headscarves.

It is absolute paranoia to suggest that Turkey will become an Islamic state just because they allow headscarves into schools and universities. It is a HUMAN RIGHT and whatever we think about the headscarf culture, we have to support this move.

The better educated these women become, the more they will have their independence, and the more likely this "culture" will change.

142.       ciko
784 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:24 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting ciko:

Now please tell me...assume you are an headscarved girl in turkey.. which one is better? to accept such a fucking fate and stay at home and wait for your fucking monster uneducated husband..or to go to universty and gain your economical and social freedom and marry whoever you want!


Headscarves in universities!!!!! Lift the ban!!!!!



Finally someone understands me ya




I completely agree with you on this one Ciko (and sorry I disagree with you Femme! )

It is MORE IMPORTANT that all women have access to better education than it is to worry about headscarves.

It is absolute paranoia to suggest that Turkey will become an Islamic state just because they allow headscarves into schools and universities. It is a HUMAN RIGHT and whatever we think about the headscarf culture, we have to support this move.

The better educated these women become, the more they will have their independence, and the more likely this 'culture' will change.



can you please give a part of your brain to Femme lol

143.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:27 pm

Quoting ciko:

can you please give a part of your brain to Femme lol



Offfffff you dudus!! Its all about us giving giving giving eh? lol

144.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:38 pm

oh, are you all blind?

well, first, islimists won the elections.

second, the islamic hijabs now are allowed.

third, people started thinking that everything is OK.

145.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:51 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

oh, are you all blind?

well, first, islimists won the elections.

second, the islamic hijabs now are allowed.

third, people started thinking that everything is OK.


foam, maybe you just need to get some life.. the paranoia is eating you.

146.       elham
579 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:53 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

oh, are you all blind?

well, first, islimists won the elections.

second, the islamic hijabs now are allowed.

third, people started thinking that everything is OK.


why not femme
In the end only the correct will be,

147.       elham
579 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:55 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:


It is MORE IMPORTANT that all women have access to better education than it is to worry about headscarves.

It is absolute paranoia to suggest that Turkey will become an Islamic state just because they allow headscarves into schools and universities. It is a HUMAN RIGHT and whatever we think about the headscarf culture, we have to support this move.

The better educated these women become, the more they will have their independence, and the more likely this "culture" will change.


right

148.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:56 pm

The fact is, it is paranoia that keeps Rule 301 alive, it is paranoia that keeps the army in control of the government, it is paranoia that prevents anyone moving forward (as Ataturk would have done).

People will not change their religion because of any law. It is better to accept this fact and progress than live in fear of an Islamic state.

And...here comes Turkish Captain to tell me to shut up and that Turkey is for Turks.....

149.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 02:59 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

The fact is, it is paranoia that keeps Rule 301 alive, it is paranoia that keeps the army in control of the government, it is paranoia that prevents anyone moving forward (as Ataturk would have done).

People will not change their religion because of any law. It is better to accept this fact and progress than live in fear of an Islamic state.



And plus, Turkey needs to pass this stage without the army putting their nose in.

150.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:01 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

The fact is, it is paranoia that keeps Rule 301 alive, it is paranoia that keeps the army in control of the government, it is paranoia that prevents anyone moving forward (as Ataturk would have done).

People will not change their religion because of any law. It is better to accept this fact and progress than live in fear of an Islamic state.


everything is going according to the plan though, we don't REALLY want any progressive changes . the same old gov't is in power and paranoia and military and ethnic pride brainwashes ppl enough to secure the gov't's position. it's the very same pride and paranoia that made americans support bush. the same tactics work everywhere. it's pretty amazing.

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