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A Feminist Islamic Reform in Turkey
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150.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:01 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

The fact is, it is paranoia that keeps Rule 301 alive, it is paranoia that keeps the army in control of the government, it is paranoia that prevents anyone moving forward (as Ataturk would have done).

People will not change their religion because of any law. It is better to accept this fact and progress than live in fear of an Islamic state.


everything is going according to the plan though, we don't REALLY want any progressive changes . the same old gov't is in power and paranoia and military and ethnic pride brainwashes ppl enough to secure the gov't's position. it's the very same pride and paranoia that made americans support bush. the same tactics work everywhere. it's pretty amazing.

151.       elham
579 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:04 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:


People will not change their religion because of any law. It is better to accept this fact and progress than live in fear of an Islamic state.


finally AEnigma understood what we (moslems)say and want
i hope to others opening mind too

152.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:07 pm

I dont really care, to be honest. All I care about is the women. It's easy to say "I don't support Islam because of its lack of women's rights" but it does not help women to do this.

What will help these women is to allow them to attend university. It is unrealistic to suggest that they just abandon their headscarves and attend. How can we know the pressure they are under from their belief,families, culture and upbringing?

153.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:08 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I dont really care, to be honest. All I care about is the women. It's easy to say "I don't support Islam because of its lack of women's rights" but it does not help women to do this.

What will help these women is to allow them to attend university. It is unrealistic to suggest that they just abandon their headscarves and attend. How can we know the pressure they are under from their families, culture and upbringing?


Absolutely!

154.       ciko
784 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:39 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigma III:

I dont really care, to be honest. All I care about is the women. It's easy to say 'I don't support Islam because of its lack of women's rights' but it does not help women to do this.

What will help these women is to allow them to attend university. It is unrealistic to suggest that they just abandon their headscarves and attend. How can we know the pressure they are under from their families, culture and upbringing?


Absolutely!



you both agree so with eachother so much lately hadi fight fight fight!!! you are being boring

155.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:41 pm

Quoting ciko:

you both agree so with eachother so much lately hadi fight fight fight!!! you are being boring



Hmmmm you are right
TIME FOR SOME USA BASHING!

156.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:48 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Hmmmm you are right
TIME FOR SOME USA BASHING!


bring it on cnm!

157.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 03:59 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting ciko:

you both agree so with eachother so much lately hadi fight fight fight!!! you are being boring



Hmmmm you are right
TIME FOR SOME USA BASHING!



When is it not time for USA bashing?

158.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 04:59 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I dont really care, to be honest. All I care about is the women. It's easy to say "I don't support Islam because of its lack of women's rights" but it does not help women to do this.

What will help these women is to allow them to attend university. It is unrealistic to suggest that they just abandon their headscarves and attend. How can we know the pressure they are under from their belief,families, culture and upbringing?


what will happen after they get their education?

159.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Feb 2008 Wed 05:01 pm

Quoting elham:

Quoting AEnigma III:


People will not change their religion because of any law. It is better to accept this fact and progress than live in fear of an Islamic state.


finally AEnigma understood what we (moslems)say and want
i hope to others opening mind too


yes, gaining back the lost caliphate (the ottomans). its almost done!
establishing the world caliphate is successfully progressing!
congrats!

160.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 07 Feb 2008 Thu 12:24 am

Quoting AlphaF:

AlphaF, no more !



You had better be kidding partner

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