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The so called armenian genocide Facts\accusations
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20.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:27 am

I am copying this from one of my earlier posts:

A translation - Ahmet Altan´s daily column (from taraf news paper)


I know, telling these things are not welcomed in this country but they endured one of the worst sufferings on this earth.
Dont say that ´but they killed us too´.
Saying this is a real shame..

What is and old man from Adana and a baby from Sivas got to do with Armenian mobs from the borders of Russia
Only being Armenian?
Just think for a moment.
When you are sitting in your home at night, your door is knocked and they take you away by force.
You start walking.
In the middle of the night you are forced to walk on the mountain roads with tired crowds.
An old woman is collapsing next to you.
They are hitting her head with rifle butts.
She is staying there lifeless.
They are smashing her crying grandson to the rocks.
Do you think they are just fairy tales?
Has anybody raped your wife next to you?
Has anybody killed your husband in front of your eyes?
Has anybody taken you away while you were eating your dinner because you are a Turk?
But they did this to hundreds of thousands of people because they were just Armenians
We have a conscience we own.
Are we going to sideline ourselves with ittihatcilar (young turks) because we are from the same blood or we will cry to death of a baby from another nation?
Do you now how many Armanians they killed?
Just because they were Armenians.
Think all of them in the middle of the night on a mountain road.
Hungry, tired and alone.
Infested with lice and ill.
They know they are taken to their deaths.
They are taking them to their deaths.
and killing them.
Hundreds of thousands of them!
Is it really important what nationality they have?
Do you really dont feel sorry for these people who suffered this much because they are Armenians?
For a moment, for a short time, you put yourself in their shoes.
Feel that moment , feel that helplessness
Are we going to ignore their sufferings because we are Turks?
...
And us, we even have forbidden their relatives to write requiems  for many years
They lied to us all the time.
They told us "but they killed us too".
There were mobs over the borders with Russia and they killed.
They were barbarians too.
But what have they got to do with women, babies, men and elders from Bursa,Sivas,Maras and Adana?

Ittihatcilar killed them because they were just Armenians.
Forget ittihacilar, and  murderers.
You are closer to victims not the murderers.
Because you are humans.
And now you are going into their country.
I dont know if we can,
but for the old times sake, if some tears come into our eyes and if we can bumble ´forgive us´.
Maybe a huge weight will be taken from our shoulders
and may be a reflection of an old Armenian with mustache will smile for a moment in the place where everybody went and we will all go.

21.       wind
37 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:37 am

officers at  that term saved armenians from genocide. after a big war, they were under danger. and they had to send them another place. it was the only solution. when I think now, it is still logical. of course some died in the way but some stayed alive. armanians show it as a genocide, coz they dont have anything to bring them togather. if they really interested in genocide, they wounldnt do it in hocali.

 

 

you must accept that armenian organisations are very powerful in western. what if azerbaican organisations were the same? this shows what world is not concerning about history, they listen what important ppl say.

 

22.       Temora
132 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:41 am

The world is only concern about itself.Turkey is just an object to blame and there is no Turkish lobby in the world on the contrary of rich,influential armenians one

23.       wind
37 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:44 am

it seems those lobbies also affect some columnists and writers

24.       Temora
132 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:48 am

 

Quoting wind

it seems those lobbies also affect some columnists and writers

 

 and "intelectual"TCL members..those omni..bla..bla..bla{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}civilised ones...we r still barbarians{#lang_emotions_smile}4´em

25.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:48 am

Everybody is effected by everything..

I think the important thing is ´living with the truth´

26.       Temora
132 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:51 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Everybody is effected by everything..

I think the important thing is ´living with the truth´

 

 which truth?yours?theirs?somebody else´s?

27.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:58 am

well..I am a abit spectical about the truth which was told us by the people who also told us ´there is no ethnic group such as kurds. kurds are mountain Turks´.

We know that they were lying..

28.       wind
37 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 12:58 am

he thinks he knows all the truths

29.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 01:01 am

Haha

And you know that ´you dont know´. that is a bit ermmm..pathetic

30.       Temora
132 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 01:02 am

 

Quoting wind

he thinks he knows all the truths

 

 At least he knows something{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

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