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The so called armenian genocide Facts\accusations
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24 Oct 2008 Fri 04:34 pm |
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why is there such a state of denial in your head that you feel you know all facts You so funny 
Who said I had all the facts bubblehead? 
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24 Oct 2008 Fri 07:36 pm |
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Who said I had all the facts bubblehead?
That doesn´t keep you from expressing your "opinion" though, does it?
Reminds me of.....
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
so said Joseph Goebbels
"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”
so said Adolf Hitler
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”
so said Joseph Goebbels
You see....you have to keep repeating the propaganda...
so said G W Bush
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24 Oct 2008 Fri 08:00 pm |
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That doesn´t keep you from expressing your "opinion" though, does it?
Reminds me of.....
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
so said Joseph Goebbels
"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”
so said Adolf Hitler
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”
so said Joseph Goebbels
You see....you have to keep repeating the propaganda...
so said G W Bush
Great post Alameda 
(Apart from link )
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| 63. |
24 Oct 2008 Fri 08:03 pm |
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That doesn´t keep you from expressing your "opinion" though, does it?
Last I checked this site still allowed people to express their opinions 
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| 64. |
24 Oct 2008 Fri 08:30 pm |
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Last I checked this site still allowed people to express their opinions
Well, when was that last time you checked????
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| 65. |
24 Oct 2008 Fri 08:34 pm |
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Well, when was that last time you checked????
I do love you
(dont tell hairy)
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| 66. |
24 Oct 2008 Fri 08:39 pm |
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Well, when was that last time you checked????
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| 67. |
24 Oct 2008 Fri 08:48 pm |
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I don´t think your going to find to many people in my country who will DENY what happend to the Native Americans. Many of these tribes have tried to form an independant country, however without the backing of our imports and exports it has failed.
America does not recognize the American Native Genocide, whereas many states within America recognize the so called armenian genocide.
I´m not even going to debate with you on what "genocide" was more barbaric...that´s just a ridiculous statement. All genocides are a crime of humanity and to what degree is human life more sacred than others is not for me to try to determine.
so do you also agree that the genocide carried out by the armenian tashnak terrorists against the Turks was a crime of humanity?
People want to forget about the Armenian Genocide....but there is no statue of limitations on a genocide. Do we forget about the Jews? It appears the old Ottoman empire committed these crimes, therefore Turkey has become an accomplence by it´s big campaign of denial. I don´t view it as historical truth but rather an issure of morality and acceptance of truth. By not resolving this....may have led to another misguided leader Hitler...who himself referred to what happen to the Armenians as a Genocide. What happened after World War I, could have also been a display of behavior from past history which resulted of thousands of Jews being slaughtered. Why is that historians don´t leave Hitler and the Holocaust alone? Also, if want to blame anyone for all the lives lost in World War I you can blame your own government for leading you into this war.
hitler never talked about the so called armenian genocide. That`s just cheap armenian propaganda and has no proof, but there are lots of documents proving the armenian collaboration with the nazis in the ww2. Do you know how many armenians were there in the nazi army?check out tallarmeniantale.com and get enlightened.
There has been court decisions and admissions years ago, in fact Prime Minister Damat Ferid Pasha placed the blame on the young turks. Even an interview Ataturk back in 1926 stated the Young Turks should be made to account for the lives of millions of our Christian subjects who were ruthlessly driven en mass from their homes and massacred. The United Nations Covention as well as the international community recognize it. You ask why bring it up now after all these years...well let´s see things have a way of repeating themselves and unless we acknowledge and condemn this we are once again turning a blind eye.
Ataturk just acknowledged that some Armenians were massacred so were some Turks. No one here denies that some Armenians were killed on the way to Syria. That doesnt make it a genocide because there was no planned action to kill all the Armenians.
What´s even more bothersome is the Turkish archives aren´t even open to the public. They are only open to Turkish Scholars...which makes me believe they have alot to hide.. Oh and by the way if you believe in anyone´s judicial system fully, then you are really fullish yourself.
the Turkish archives are open to all scholars teaschip, I think you`re totally brainwashed by the armenian propaganda. The closed archives are the Armenian tashnak ones in Boston.
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24 Oct 2008 Fri 08:58 pm |
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the Turkish archives are open to all scholars teaschip, I think you`re totally brainwashed by the armenian propaganda. The closed archives are the Armenian tashnak ones in Boston.
This is really a funny statement..
Those archives were never open..We were just told that ´they were open´.
Would you like to translate the article 
http://www.taraf.com.tr/makale/728.htm
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| 69. |
24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:03 pm |
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it clearly says that the Turkish archives are open.
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24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:08 pm |
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That doesn´t keep you from expressing your "opinion" though, does it?
Reminds me of.....
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
so said Joseph Goebbels
"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”
so said Adolf Hitler
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”
so said Joseph Goebbels
You see....you have to keep repeating the propaganda...
so said G W Bush
Let´s see Alamada many things I stated here are indeed "facts"... Most people base their opinions on facts, unlike you. Using your concept theory we would never know the truth about anything...
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