if there was a contest on insulting you would get the first prize

just wondering how the mods ignore your numerous personal attacks i see a thick turkish conspiracy here.

 this one is soooo funny

Caramba, carambita!

 awwwwwww! i love you too, canim

You are a conservative person Vineyard. You are a status quo protector. Neither I was expecting you to support this personal apology petition nor I was expecting you to support the idea of people talking about it because it would be against the current status quo which was  created by the people who, in fact, repeatedly lied to all Turkish people

There would be no talking, no arguing ALMOST about anything if people thought the same way as you do..

Anyway, going back to the subject

Here is Alpay Sahin´s column (in zaman) about why he has signed it:

About half of the nearly 1.5 million Ottoman Armenians who were subjected to forced deportation lost their lives on the way, either through killings by members of the security forces and bandits, or as a result of epidemics and hunger. Some of them survived the ordeal through protection by Turks and Muslims and conversion to Islam. Others were able to eventually flee to the West, mainly to France and the United States, where most of the Armenian diaspora lives today. There remain only about 70,000 Armenian citizens of the Republic of Turkey today living almost entirely in Istanbul. Those Armenians who served in the Ottoman army upon their return from the war found that their families and communities had all disappeared and that their possessions had been confiscated.

Armenian nationalists maintain that the decision of the Committee of Union and Progress rulers to deport the Ottoman Armenians was part of a plan aimed at their total annihilation. This argument has never been proven, being disputed even by distinguished non-Turkish Ottoman historians. The fact, however, that the Ottoman government collectively and inhumanly punished its Armenian citizens by deportation in retaliation for the crimes of Armenian nationalist rebels who collaborated with the enemy is beyond dispute. ..

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/yazarDetay.do?haberno=161890

Well you needn´t go back to the subject, you have already lost me there...

Mods and admins:

Personal attacks and insults keep flying in the air. In the absence of proper moderation, you shouldn´t object to those defending themselves the way dictated by their so-called discussion counterparts...

I am also tired of the incompatible and arbitrary moderation going on here....

Are we supposed to do all the work ourselves?

I sensed that , there was a belittling  in your post by trying to put a moral barrier between  believers and thinkers. (Or it might be purely my misunderstanding) 

As a person who talks about this subject openly, I took  the understanding that you think I am a believer..

And, to be honest, in this thread or in similar threads, nobody came with the argument that armenians got killed in millions over a night..There is no blind armenian nationalist around as far as I know.. 

Anyway I would leave it here..

If my tone in that post amounts to belittling how will we explain yours? Labeling? Name calling? You tell me what...

May I call you a bigot if we are in the open market?