Great post - my thoughts exactly! Bu arada, TE Lawrence became a sapik! After being nearly flogged to death during his capture, he became addicted to it and paid men to flog him for sexual kicks!

That is France´s problem..

and the Armenian issue is the problem of Turkey and Armenia, not of France.

Agreed on that..

And it is OUR problem and now we, TURKS are talking about it..(despite the annoyence of nationalists!! )

Thanks to the people who initiated the petition and made it happen..

doing it in a onesided way, without acknowledging hundreds of thousands of Turks genocided by the "angelic" armenians is nothing but the same type of cheap propaganda used by the armenian fascists and terrorists.

I`m asking you one simple question. can you fake liberals acknowledge the Turks genocided by the armenians? can you?

You should start reading abit of history before talking like racist/fascist MHP supporters which can not simply accept the fact that someone may thing different than what they think..

Simply start with my ´simplified translation´ about the events explained in a simplified way http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_37173.

 Thank you, it´s nice to get flowers from you.

I don´t really get all the fuss going on about this subject in Turkey. The people who signed it have been declared like traitors or the worst people. What if some people feel like saying sorry, the ones who do not feel like just do not need to sign it, it has not been signed in the name of all people, it is something personal. About this subject, I agree with Abdullah Gül, they have just used their freedom of expression.

 I just saw on TV the grandson of a Finnish 3rd class passenger on the Titanic relating how she described the voyage.   No mention of what you discribe, where did you hear it?  But it underscores that it is hard to be sure what really happened in 1915.   American and British journalists were expected to "support the War effort" with their writing. 

I was 12 or 13 years old when "Lawrence of Arabia" the movie came out.  I liked it so much that I read both of Thomeas Edward Lawrences books.  (about 1000 pages)..  But now I realize that most of the trouble in the Middle East is his fault.  That maybe if the Ottomans had retained the region, that there would be no Israel, no hamas, no hizbollah, and 9-11 would have never happened.

Thomas Edward Lawrence was very dilusioned by what happened in the Middle East after WWI.   He more or less went quietely insane and basically commited suicide on a motorcycle.

 this is not entirely true

he did not commit suicide. he tried not to hit the boys on bikes.

 I just saw on TV the grandson of a Finnish 3rd class passenger on the Titanic relating how she described the voyage.   No mention of what you discribe, where did you hear it?  But it underscores that it is hard to be sure what really happened in 1915.   American and British journalists were expected to "support the War effort" with their writing. 

I was 12 or 13 years old when "Lawrence of Arabia" the movie came out.  I liked it so much that I read both of Thomeas Edward Lawrences books.  (about 1000 pages)..  But now I realize that most of the trouble in the Middle East is his fault.  That maybe if the Ottomans had retained the region, that there would be no Israel, no hamas, no hizbollah, and 9-11 would have never happened.

Thomas Edward Lawrence was very dilusioned by what happened in the Middle East after WWI.   He more or less went quietely insane and basically commited suicide on a motorcycle.

but he forgot to mention how brave was dicaprio to save poor people