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90.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 03:50 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

but he forgot to mention how brave was dicaprio to save poor people lol

 

 lol

91.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 03:52 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

I remember an expert`s proving that his claim in his book that he was raped by a Turkish colonel in a fortress somewhere in Arabia was just one of his sexual fantasies because in fact he never went to that fortress.

 

but history is written by these arsholes just because they are on the side of the strong.

 

 Interesting... but I am curious - how exactly did this "expert" prove that he was not raped!

 

Anyway, yes he was a very sexually screwed up individual, so I guess either story could be true!

92.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 03:58 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Interesting... but I am curious - how exactly did this "expert" prove that he was not raped!

 

Anyway, yes he was a very sexually screwed up individual, so I guess either story could be true!

 

"The tests revealed the imprint of a capitalised "A" on November 18 — almost certainly the A of Azraq, a derelict castle in an oasis 100 kilometres south-east of Deraa, where Lawrence had spent several days.

 

Barr suggests Lawrence stayed put, rather than going to Deraa — a contention supported by a letter Lawrence wrote to his mother on November 14, 1917. In it, he claimed to be "staying here (at Azraq) a few days".

 

Lawrence first mentioned the alleged rape in June 1919, midway through writing his memoirs. Barr says Lawrence fabricated the event to discredit Arab militants in the precarious post-war climate.

 

Barr´s findings resurrect claims that Lawrence had sado-masochistic urges and elaborated on the rape scene for his own pleasure."

 


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/05/20/1147545567325.html?from=top5

93.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 04:03 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

"The tests revealed the imprint of a capitalised "A" on November 18 — almost certainly the A of Azraq, a derelict castle in an oasis 100 kilometres south-east of Deraa, where Lawrence had spent several days.

 

Barr suggests Lawrence stayed put, rather than going to Deraa — a contention supported by a letter Lawrence wrote to his mother on November 14, 1917. In it, he claimed to be "staying here (at Azraq) a few days".

 

Lawrence first mentioned the alleged rape in June 1919, midway through writing his memoirs. Barr says Lawrence fabricated the event to discredit Arab militants in the precarious post-war climate.

 

Barr´s findings resurrect claims that Lawrence had sado-masochistic urges and elaborated on the rape scene for his own pleasure."

 


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/05/20/1147545567325.html?from=top5

 

Interesting, although I doubt Lawrence had any political motive for his claim.  Most likely he, correctly, guessed that his memoirs would be of more interest to people if they contained something salacious

 

Either way, he is a sapik who caused huge problems and was hailed a "hero" to some..... God bless Great Britain lol

 

94.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 04:05 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 God bless Great Britain lol

 

I`m sure the Arabs say that too(especially those in Iraq){#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

95.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 04:06 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

I`m sure the Arabs say that too(especially those in Iraq){#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 Yes we are beloved by the whole world! lol

96.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 04:09 pm

You see Tamikidakika, it is POSSIBLE to be realistic about your own country and it´s history, but still have a love for it

 

Maybe you should try it sometime

97.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 04:11 pm

 

Quoting Uzun_Hava

 I just saw on TV the grandson of a Finnish 3rd class passenger on the Titanic relating how she described the voyage.   No mention of what you discribe, where did you hear it?  But it underscores that it is hard to be sure what really happened in 1915.   American and British journalists were expected to "support the War effort" with their writing. 

 

I was 12 or 13 years old when "Lawrence of Arabia" the movie came out.  I liked it so much that I read both of Thomeas Edward Lawrences books.  (about 1000 pages)..  But now I realize that most of the trouble in the Middle East is his fault.  That maybe if the Ottomans had retained the region, that there would be no Israel, no hamas, no hizbollah, and 9-11 would have never happened.

 

Thomas Edward Lawrence was very dilusioned by what happened in the Middle East after WWI.   He more or less went quietely insane and basically commited suicide on a motorcycle.

 

I will track down his living relatives and ask them to join the campain as well..

 

98.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 04:12 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

You see Tamikidakika, it is POSSIBLE to be realistic about your own country and it´s history, but still have a love for it

 

Maybe you should try it sometime

 

so can you tell me in what way I`m not realistic about my country and it`s history?

99.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 04:14 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

so can you tell me in what way I`m not realistic about my country and it`s history?

 

 Are you serious? lol lol lol

100.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Dec 2008 Mon 04:14 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I will track down his living relatives and ask them to join the campain as well..

 

 whose?

vineyards?

dicaprio?

or ET of arabia? lol

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