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140.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 12:52 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 

 

 

This was also wrong... No matter what, that is not the place for such issues... Everybody should know, understand and behave according to his state...

 

If something like that happens, that means that we accept him over our national assembly...

 

It is much more like a gesture. It does not mean that whoever speaks there him or her is above the parliment.

141.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 01:54 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 

 

 

He has no place to give a speach in Turkish Parliment, he is not a minister nor a diplomat in Republic of Turkey. If they make such thing, this shows how week Turkish government is...

 

That parliament, to my mind, is to be able to speak the problems of Turkey and to find solutions to them.

 

As used to he will be coming together with the president of Turkey and have some meetings.

 

This is what it is supposed to be. We pay them to find solutions to problems of Turkey, not to listen a speech of a president of somewhere in the world.

 

 

 

 

 

I definitely agree, but check out newspapers, even the turkish media calls the president of america "the president Obama" as if he is the president of turkey. I wonder why don`t they say "the president Ahmedinejad".

 

it`s called "yalakalik"

142.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 02:00 pm

Just calm down boys..

It is just a gesture.. I am sure many other presidents from other countries have spoken in Turkish parliment..

It does not mean our sovereignity is at stake..

In the end, we Turks are famous with our hospitality..lol

143.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 02:04 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Ouh hehehe made me laugh

 

why don`t you allow your representatives speak Pakistani in the parliement Ms. Aenigma? why do you suppress Pakistanis ("Pakis" in British English in case you don`t understand)?

144.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 02:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

It is much more like a gesture. It does not mean that whoever speaks there him or her is above the parliment.

 

 I dont believe that they enough time to spend for gestures or whatever!

 

I told you... let them have a meal in the restaurant and send invitation to all cabinet members and let Obama or Mobama give a speech there?

 

Not clear enough?

 

Every place has some meaning... and they are supposed to be used in their meanings... not for shows or whatever...

145.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 02:46 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 

 

 I dont believe that they enough time to spend for gestures or whatever!

 

I told you... let them have a meal in the restaurant and send invitation to all cabinet members and let Obama or Mobama give a speech there?

 

Not clear enough?

 

Every place has some meaning... and they are supposed to be used in their meanings... not for shows or whatever...

 

This is the list of people spoken to Turkish parliment in the past apperantly:

As you can see..

I told you ..

It is just a gesture.. 

 

Clear enough?

 

 

-Federal Almanya Meclis Baskani Gerstenmaier (1964) 

 

  -SSCB Parlamento Kurulu Baskani Nikolay Podgorni (1965) 

 

  -Tunus Cumhurbaskani Habib Burgiba (1965) 

 

  -Kazakistan Yüksek Surasi Baskani Serikbolsun Abdildin (1992) 

 

  -Bosna-Hersek Basbakan Yardimcisi Muhammet Cengiç (1992) 

 

  -Azerbaycan Cumhurbaskani Ebulfeyz Elçibey (1992) 

 

  -KKTC Cumhurbaskani Rauf Denktas (1993, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2004) 

 

  -Azerbaycan Cumhurbaskani Haydar Aliyev (1994, 1997 ve 2001) 

 

  -Kirgizistan Cumhuriyeti Cumhurbaskani Askar Akayev (1994) 

 

  -Gürcistan Devlet Baskani Eduard Sevardnadze (1996) 

 

  -Romanya Cumhurbaskani Emil Constanstinescu (1997) 

 

  -Bulgaristan Cumhurbaskani Petar Stoyanov (1997) 

 

  -Arnavutluk Cumhurbaskani Recep Meydani (1998) 

 

  -Hindistan Meclis Baskani G.M.C Balayogi (1998) 

 

  -ABD Baskani Bill Clinton (1999) 

 

  -Ürdün Krali Abdullah Bin Al Huseyin (200 

 

  -Polonya Cumhurbaskani Aleksandr Kwasniewski (200 

 

  -Türkmenistan Meclis Baskani Sahad Muradov (200 

 

  -Ukrayna Cumhurbaskani Leonid Kuchma (200 

 

  -AB Komisyonu Baskani Romano Prodi (2004) 

 

  -Pakistan Cumhurbaskani Pervez Müserref (2004) 

 

  -Avrupa Parlamentosu Baskani Pat Cox (2004) 

 

  -Azerbaycan Cumhurbaskani Ilham Aliyev (2004) 

 

  -Avrupa Parlamentosu Baskani Josep Borell (2004) 

 

  -AB Komisyonu Parlamenterler Meclisi Baskani Bene Uanderlinden (2005) 

 

  -Israil Cumhurbaskani Simon Peres (2007) 

 

  -Filistin Devlet Baskani Mahmut Abbas (2007) 

 

  -AB Komisyonu Baskani Jose Manuel Barroso (2008) 

 

 

 

 

 



Edited (3/16/2009) by thehandsom

146.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 03:43 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

This is the list of people spoken to Turkish parliment in the past apperantly:

As you can see..

I told you ..

It is just a gesture.. 

 

Clear enough?

 

 

 And i tell you, we dont have time and luxury for gestures, dont you think they should work some?

 

And then you complain about stupid rules ( according to you) in the cabinet... If they spend time for nonsenses and if you dont stop this wasting of time... nothing will happen...

 

am i clear enough?

147.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 03:51 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 

 

 And i tell you, we dont have time and luxury for gestures, dont you think they should work some?

 

And then you complain about stupid rules ( according to you) in the cabinet... If they spend time for nonsenses and if you dont stop this wasting of time... nothing will happen...

 

am i clear enough?

 

Ah..

I did not realize that you were objecting the issue of Obama speaking in the parliment from ´using the time effectively in the parliment´ point of view..

because in your first post, you said that:

´This was also wrong... No matter what, that is not the place for such issues... Everybody should know, understand and behave according to his state...

 

If something like that happens, that means that we accept him over our national assembly...´

 

But of course, they should work harder there.. 

148.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 04:54 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Ah..

I did not realize that you were objecting the issue of Obama speaking in the parliment from ´using the time effectively in the parliment´ point of view..

because in your first post, you said that:

´This was also wrong... No matter what, that is not the place for such issues... Everybody should know, understand and behave according to his state...

 

If something like that happens, that means that we accept him over our national assembly...´

 

But of course, they should work harder there.. 

 

 

correct, gestures are for balls or for some meetings or whatever... national assembly is a place to work for who voted them...

149.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Mar 2009 Mon 06:01 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 

 

 

correct, gestures are for balls or for some meetings or whatever... national assembly is a place to work for who voted them...

 

I think it is more than that ..I am sure it is much related to traditions of foreign diplomacy.

The foreign ministery is the one of the most succesful ministaries in Turkey..As you can see from the list of I have given, They have been keeping a tradition for many many years without worrying about wasting a couple of hours of Turkish parliment. 

And sometimes, with that treatment they may get much more than they will get from the parliment working many months really..

Anyway, that is the tradition and Obama will come and address the Parliment (in English) like Simon Perez did earlier..

 

150.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 12:06 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I think it is more than that ..I am sure it is much related to traditions of foreign diplomacy.

The foreign ministery is the one of the most succesful ministaries in Turkey..As you can see from the list of I have given, They have been keeping a tradition for many many years without worrying about wasting a couple of hours of Turkish parliment. 

And sometimes, with that treatment they may get much more than they will get from the parliment working many months really..

Anyway, that is the tradition and Obama will come and address the Parliment (in English) like Simon Perez did earlier..

 

 

I am sure, they would do this in Turkish if they knew the language! Because they have some respect... You saw Peres at DAVOS he has said nothing... he could easily fire up the relationships between two countries...

 

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