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20.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 07 Aug 2010 Sat 01:11 pm

I know there is also a word for Islamic fashion in Turkey, but I forgot what it was... Maybe some locals can help with it? I heard somebody say it about the style with the long jackets and such.

21.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Aug 2010 Sat 02:14 pm

We see young women wearing hijabs kissing their boy friends in parks. They say God ordered women to cover their bodies. I don´t know about the kissing in public places part.

In Turkey, there has lately been a massive exchange of capital between Islamists and non-Islamists. With so much money coming in their way thanks to the AKP regime, they appear in expensive convertable cars cruising through fashionable streets.

It is good in a way. A considerable proportion of the population has now become significantly more affluent. They are in a process of learning about the more colorful aspects of life. They have discovered fashion, the need for looking attractive and have converted themselves a bit in the process. Since they are the ones with the means to enjoy a lush life, they have been able to acquire more diversified and more sophisticated tastes. All this has been the beginning of a transformation from the patriarchal family model. Money transforms everything. Nevertheless stereotypes generally trail behind.

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22.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Aug 2010 Sat 02:45 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

We see young women wearing hijabs kissing their boy friends in parks. They say God ordered women to cover their bodies. I don´t know about the kissing in public places part.

 

That´s a tad like trying to trick God, isn´t it? And I think it´s common in all religions. I´ve often wondered why women who consider their hair to be so arousing that it´d better be kept away from men´s sight, would put on so much make-up. If you´re into being humble and plain, then your hair is not the biggest issue, is it?

It´s like Catholic bigots who get on their knees and want to protect a wooden cross standing illegaly in front of the Polish presidential palace as if their afterlife depended on it, and would kill anyone who dares to claim that crosses should be in churches, not in the streets. Or like Catholic drunks beating their wife and kids, cheating their friends but standing in the front row in church.

 

People are pathetic. No, not all, just about 99% of them

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23.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 07 Aug 2010 Sat 06:27 pm

The double standard (like the hijab and kissing) is also I see just in the fashion itself. I have seen plenty of girls wearing a hijab, but also wearing very skinny jeans, showing every curve of their bodies, or wearing short skirts with some thights under it. I don´t mind them doing that. It´s between them and God. I only have problems with it, when they try to read me a lesson about how I am bad because I don´t cover my hair... Well, at least I cover my *ss

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24.       scalpel
1472 posts
 07 Aug 2010 Sat 07:32 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

I know there is also a word for Islamic fashion in Turkey, but I forgot what it was... Maybe some locals can help with it? I heard somebody say it about the style with the long jackets and such.

 

 tesettür giyim?

25.       nifrtity
1806 posts
 07 Aug 2010 Sat 07:37 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

The double standard (like the hijab and kissing) is also I see just in the fashion itself. I have seen plenty of girls wearing a hijab, but also wearing very skinny jeans, showing every curve of their bodies, or wearing short skirts with some thights under it. I don´t mind them doing that. It´s between them and God. I only have problems with it, when they try to read me a lesson about how I am bad because I don´t cover my hair... Well, at least I cover my *ss

 

 yes if any gril do that she is surely not right and the measure of the people is the ethics and what they are doing not what they are dressed

26.       scalpel
1472 posts
 07 Aug 2010 Sat 07:46 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

The double standard (like the hijab and kissing) is also I see just in the fashion itself. I have seen plenty of girls wearing a hijab, but also wearing very skinny jeans, showing every curve of their bodies, or wearing short skirts with some thights under it. I don´t mind them doing that. It´s between them and God. I only have problems with it, when they try to read me a lesson about how I am bad because I don´t cover my hair... Well, at least I cover my *ss

 

That is mainly because the Turkish rightest politicians are focused primarily on "heads". What if they were more focused on *sses than heads??? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

 

 

27.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 07 Aug 2010 Sat 09:04 pm

I´m very worried with the state of men´s sexuality if they get more turned on by hair, than by the shapes of a woman´s body But each their own, I guess.

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28.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 08 Aug 2010 Sun 12:49 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

I´m very worried with the state of men´s sexuality if they get more turned on by hair, than by the shapes of a woman´s body But each their own, I guess.

You seem to know much about the subject....Pray, tell us what you think it is in women, that effectively and ethically should turn men on....

 

I want to make sure I am not some kind of a pervert .....Cool

 



Edited (8/8/2010) by AlphaF

29.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 08 Aug 2010 Sun 01:01 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

You seem to know much about the subject....Pray, tell us what you think it is in women, that effectively and ethically should turn men on....

 

I want to make sure I am not some kind of a pervert .....Cool

 

 

The short summary, everything that gets effected by female hormones, should physically turn a hetero sexual male on (I´m not talking about personality here, just the body). Hair is something even young children have. Other parts of the body that do change after puberty, like the hips of a woman and other shapes, should be more sexually attractive.

30.       vineyards
1954 posts
 08 Aug 2010 Sun 01:21 pm

If only if it were so easy as it is summed up in your question. Turkey is a Muslim country. You know populationwise it is on a par with countries like the UK and Germany. There is not a single opinion about whether to ban veil.

Hijab is not singularly a religious rule but more like a tradition for countries like Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria, Poland etc. That means they complement the rules of their religion with the traditions of their own. Most urban people have roots in the village where in a rural life style, women must cover their hair and wear longer and more casual looking skirts. Since they also want to appear attractive, they often ornament their garments with emroidery, lacework or fabric painting. When you go to a village, you could see attractive young women doing their daily work. Like all aspects of their life, their garments look natural being the products of their own culture.

The West considers veil and hijab as strictly religious symbols and impose a ban on them on the ground that religious symbols are not allowed in public places. To what extent this conforms with the general attitude of the public in Europe is a matter of question. This is being done for the purpose of protecting children from stereotypes during their education. In Turkey, veil is considered as a religious symbol but those scarves worn by the villagers are not considered as such. As a matter of fact there is a huge difference between these two.

Islamists as they are called fought for the cause for decades calling for freedom to hijab. Their party is in power now. They have gained a number of rights but various institutions in Turkey including the military, the justice system and the local municipalities do their best to resist the transformation of the country into an Islamic regime.

 

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

How come it´s applauded if a Muslim country does it, but it´s labelled as racist when a European country does the same?

 

 



Edited (8/8/2010) by vineyards

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