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80.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 04:15 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

Islam comes from Judaism anyway, so they can´t denounce everything that is a bit like Judaism. Otherwise Muslims would also have to start eating pork, not believe in one god, not believe in the stories of Abraham, Noah, and all that.

 

No, Islam doesnt come from Judaism, Christianity does! Although Islam claims to have the same prophets or even the same God it doesnt mean Islam is based on Judeo-Christianity.

I personally believe that Islam was made and created at the request of Roman Catholic Agency to use Arabs to get rid of real Christians in the Arab peninsula who didnt want to obey Rome. In the past all anti Rome Christians were murdered, Waldens, Cathars etc

81.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 04:18 pm

 

Quoting armegon

Quran claims it verifies and authenticates the books which was revealed before. But It also claims the books which was revealed before lost their authentication. And that is why Quran was revealed.Wink

 

 

 

A very weak as well as illogic justification for the Almighty who cant keep His Books in safe! {#emotions_dlg.suspicious}

82.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 04:24 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

Any effort towards bringing humans closer to an understanding of the way god thinks must be the main objective of any religion.

 

What else are the religions for ? 

 

Religions are the distortions of the ideas who God is. Religions are the perverted roads leading to destruction. Religions put all possible burdens on poor humans that make God sadistic not loving and merciful.

It is high time for religions to unite into one so that the End would come sooner.

God hates all type unions that is why He will send destructions as soon as the world will unite under the false name for the sake of peace and security.

83.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 04:37 pm

I invite you all to the science.{#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

84.       Thebirdy
39 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 05:42 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

Religions are the distortions of the ideas who God is. Religions are the perverted roads leading to destruction. Religions put all possible burdens on poor humans that make God sadistic not loving and merciful.

It is high time for religions to unite into one so that the End would come sooner.

God hates all type unions that is why He will send destructions as soon as the world will unite under the false name for the sake of peace and security.

 we must be reading different translation or interpretations of the bible canim reverend lemon.What about the Ark of covenant and other unions described by the bible´s authors?

Following your track of thinking Israel suffers or suffered because god hates union with it and sends all destructions.Aferin sana{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

85.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 07:40 pm

 

Quoting Thebirdy

 

 we must be reading different translation or interpretations of the bible canim reverend lemon.What about the Ark of covenant and other unions described by the bible´s authors?

Following your track of thinking Israel suffers or suffered because god hates union with it and sends all destructions.Aferin sana{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

 

What? I just feel, dear, that you never even touched the Bible. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

What kind of union under the ArK of Covenant? Enlighten me. {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

Following my thinking you have the Tower of Babel where nations united to be one great nation speaking one language under one name they made for themselves.

 

 

 

86.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 08:17 pm

Quoting lemon

 

 

No, Islam doesnt come from Judaism, Christianity does! Although Islam claims to have the same prophets or even the same God it doesnt mean Islam is based on Judeo-Christianity.

I personally believe that Islam was made and created at the request of Roman Catholic Agency to use Arabs to get rid of real Christians in the Arab peninsula who didnt want to obey Rome. In the past all anti Rome Christians were murdered, Waldens, Cathars etc

 

So Islam is not based on the Judeo-Christian background, but does have the basic same rules, the same history lessons, the same famous people in it (I don´t want to use the word prophets, that´s a matter of interpretation).  Even if it was created at the request of somebody, they used the Judeo-Christian religions as a reference point.

 

I think it´s a bit to harsh to say God doesn´t like any kind of union. That would make marriage against God´s wishes. I do think that the idea people have of God, doesn´t match the division between these people in question. They are getting lost in silly details. Every major religion is already divided into a million different streams of thought. It reminds me of an episode of Startrek Enterprise (yes I´m THAT nerdy), where there was a civil war between two different religions... the difference between the religions... one thought God created the world in 8 days, the other thought God created the world in 9 days....

87.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 10:27 pm

Some philosophers consider Judaism and Islam - of the three mainstream religions - closer to each other, as they are both strictly "single god" religions.

Though Islam verifies Jesus as a prophet of god, the idea of Father, son and the holy ghost concept does not fit in with the idea of God as described in Quran or Torah, hence leads Moslems to think that current version of the Bible is doctored by the Church and may somehow differ from God´s original messages.

I have no idea what Jews think about the Holy Ghost !

88.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 10:34 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

Some philosophers consider Judaism and Islam - of the three mainstream religions - closer to each other, as they are both strictly "single god" religions.

Though Islam verifies Jesus as a prophet of god, the idea of Father, son and the holy ghost concept does not fit in with the idea of God as described in Quran or Torah, hence leads Moslems to think that current version of the Bible is doctored by the Church and may somehow differ from God´s original messages.

I have no idea what Jews think about the Holy Ghost !

 

Congratulations, Alpha and good luck in learning/discovering! {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

 

89.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 10:40 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

So Islam is not based on the Judeo-Christian background, but does have the basic same rules, the same history lessons, the same famous people in it (I don´t want to use the word prophets, that´s a matter of interpretation).  Even if it was created at the request of somebody, they used the Judeo-Christian religions as a reference point.

 

I think it´s a bit to harsh to say God doesn´t like any kind of union. That would make marriage against God´s wishes. I do think that the idea people have of God, doesn´t match the division between these people in question. They are getting lost in silly details. Every major religion is already divided into a million different streams of thought. It reminds me of an episode of Startrek Enterprise (yes I´m THAT nerdy), where there was a civil war between two different religions... the difference between the religions... one thought God created the world in 8 days, the other thought God created the world in 9 days....

 

{#emotions_dlg.rolleyes} Hello! {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

God hates when people unite under their names/orgs like in case of Babel. That is how He caused many languages.

Europeans are uniting into EU.

Muslims into Muslim League. These all one day will have a need to unite into one global nation with one global economy and monetray unit. I dont know but something will cause this. And as soon as this happens consider it the End. {#emotions_dlg.bye}

90.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 10:50 pm

Moslem League is not possible...For no two Moslems can ever agree on anything....

I support EURABIA{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}



Edited (8/15/2010) by AlphaF

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