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40.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 10:25 am

 

Quoting si++

 

Right!

 

I was expectig some from you. You always come here with your pro-Armenian views and say something like:

 

You Türks are <X>, then it must be <Y>.

 

I am curious of what you know about the subject, lemon. Share your knowledge with us. Enlighten us.

No, -Ice,

First, it was you guys who came with this mystical document, not me. All I did was an investigation. Since I speak Russian and digged and read most websites that google threw in. And I found no proof for the authentication thereof.

Second, you are wrong, I am not pro-armenian. Neither you or armenians are my relatives.

Third, I never start threads like Turks blah blah.

And finally I just join the discussion, contribute something, and I dont have to speak only Turkish pleasing or Turkish flattering statements. Things must be said objectively. If the document is authentic and you can prove it so, bring it on, let me have a look. And then I will have to say: Yes, this document indeed sheds some light on the deeds happent in the past.

I said, and I will repeat neither parts are angels.

 

41.       acute
202 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 10:32 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

If the document is authentic and you can prove it so, bring it on, let me have a look. And then I will have to say: Yes, this document indeed sheds some light on the deeds happent in the past.

 

 

 

I am sure you would dispute and argue your own birth certificate.{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

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42.       si++
3785 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 10:45 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

No, -Ice,

First, it was you guys who came with this mystical document, not me. All I did was an investigation. Since I speak Russian and digged and read most websites that google threw in. And I found no proof for the authentication thereof. You were given a name and some report content. That you have found no prrof yourself doesn´t mean there is not such a report. Let´s assume there is no such thing for a second. So does that make the content invalid? Go read the content which I posted here and come say to which items you have an objections to then we can move forward from there.

Second, you are wrong, I am not pro-armenian. (huh? now should I belive this or what you have kept saying so far?? {#emotions_dlg.unsure})Neither you or armenians are my relatives.

Third, I never start threads like Turks blah blah. What do you mean? This is a site about Turkish, Turkia and Turks. What else were you expecting? That said, I personally start threads about Armenians and Greeks and Arabs and Dutch and Ukranians and ... on some occasions. Also you can go ahead and start some yourself if you wish. That´s an option too.

And finally I just join the discussion, contribute something, and I dont have to speak only Turkish pleasing or Turkish flattering statements. Things must be said objectively. If the document is authentic and you can prove it so, bring it on, let me have a look. And then I will have to say: Yes, this document indeed sheds some light on the deeds happent in the past.

I said, and I will repeat neither parts are angels.

 

 

 

43.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 10:51 am

 

Quoting acute

 

 

I am sure you would dispute and argue your own birth certificate.{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

 

Acute, do you have anything interesting to add to the topic, maybe you have some interesting thoughts to share on Turkish-Armenian matters? Maybe you ve read tons of materials and discussed it with many different people? Maybe you are a shy expert disguising yourself as an off topic instigator?

44.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 11:05 am

--Ice,

Of course you are right! I am all wrong. Turks are angels. Ataturk is god. Turkey is heaven. All who say otherwise must be cast away.

As for that I dont start topics on Turkey is I meant I dont start HateTurkey threads.

All I am saying is lets move on. Nations come and go. There were greater nations and empires once. Most perished. Turkey once wasnt Turkey and your blood ancestors didnt speak Turkish neither they were muslims.

Who knows what your descendants be and speak? Nothing is eternal. As fo the End is coming soon.

45.       si++
3785 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 11:11 am

 

Quoting lemon

--Ice,

Of course you are right! I am all wrong. Turks are angels. Ataturk is god. Turkey is heaven. All who say otherwise must be cast away.

As for that I dont start topics on Turkey is I meant I dont start HateTurkey threads.

All I am saying is lets move on. Nations come and go. There were greater nations and empires once. Most perished. Turkey once wasnt Turkey and your blood ancestors didnt speak Turkish neither they were muslims.

Who knows what your descendants be and speak? Nothing is eternal. As fo the End is coming soon.

 

Come on lemon,

 

It´s all same pattern al the time.

Türks are <X>, (then they are <Y>.

 

As for "hate Turks/Turkia", I will start one, I expect your contribution.

46.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 11:26 am

--Ice,

What you do now is just pure teasing with no purpose or whatsever. It makes you angry that a Kazakh doesnt speak favourable things to which you are used to.

Most Kazakhs adore Turkey, they consider Turks as brothers. Theres a huge turkish business blooming in Kazakhstan. Nearly 30% of cafes and shops are Turkish. Kazakhstan is a big market for Turks, we buy everything from Turkey and praise the quality. We invite many Turkish architects and engineers.

I am no way sort of anti-Turkish, just stubborn and straightforward, wanting honestly say what I think.

Why would I be anti-Turkish on a Turkish site? It is ilogic, isnt it? I rather gain huge favour and popularity among Turks speaking compliments like some people here who suck up to you.

 

47.       si++
3785 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 11:28 am

 

Quoting lemon

--Ice,

What you do now is just pure teasing with no purpose or whatsever. It makes you angry that a Kazakh doesnt speak favourable things to which you are used to.

Most Kazakhs adore Turkey, they consider Turks as brothers. Theres a huge turkish business blooming in Kazakhstan. Nearly 30% of cafes and shops are Turkish. Kazakhstan is a big market for Turks, we buy everything from Turkey and praise the quality. We invite many Turkish architects and engineers.

I am no way sort of anti-Turkish, just stubborn and straightforward, wanting honestly say what I think.

Why would I be anti-Turkish on a Turkish site? It is ilogic, isnt it? I rather gain huge favour and popularity among Turks speaking compliments like some people here who suck up to you.

 

 

Also I have started a thread about Kazak Turkish. I expect your contribution.

48.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Dec 2011 Sat 11:30 am

That was too quick. You must be bored this Saturday morning. 

49.       scalpel
1472 posts
 18 Dec 2011 Sun 01:29 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

It´s your conclusion that they deserved what they got.

I would rephrase it as "It was an outcome of what you listed above".

 

And as for your list*, to which items do  you have an objection? all of them?

 

Ottoman government was right about the relocation (not deportation, deportation means something else right?)**. They were killing each other. They had to be separated? So what were you expecting? Leave Armenians where they were and relocate the Muslims?

 

*See the post nr.16 above.. tunci´s post.. you will find the original list there in that post.. The list is not mine.. I was just commenting on tunci´s list.. I don´t think tunci hoca needs someone else to defend his views.. 

**deportation was tunci´s choice for "tehcir".. I used relocation.. 

 

Next time read the posts more carefully before commenting on them  {#emotions_dlg.whistle}

As for your above words that I underlined..

Firstly the unimportant part: your matching is wrong: armenians x muslims

It should be Turks x Armenians or Muslims x Christians .. right? Wink

Secondly the important part (in which there is a clear racist and fascist features): They had to be separated? So what were you expecting? Leave Armenians where they were and relocate the Muslims?

 

Why not the muslims? Because the muslims were the real owners of the country? Because the muslims had some privileges that christians did not? Because the christians were the minority and weak? Because the muslims were the majority and held the power?.. Or maybe it was completing the islamization of Anatolia?.. No, no side had to be separated.. why did the Armenians have to be? Why do you make it look as if it was the only option to relocate the Armenians in Syria? Was the problem solved that way? Maybe the Armenian relocation was not a sistemic act of killing but yet a crime against humanity. If you say, "in order to save their lives from the Turkish attacks we decided to relocate the Armenians in Syria, but unfortunately, nearly half of them died from hunger and diseases since proper precautions were not taken because there was a tough war going on..blah blah ", you must not expect the others to understand you..    

 

 



Edited (12/18/2011) by scalpel

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50.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 18 Dec 2011 Sun 02:38 am

I guess only divine justice can solve this problem and we can only make it worse like we always do. And here most of the people discuss this issue to satisfy their egos they dont give a shit about the victims of this war.

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