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100.       burakk
309 posts
 24 Nov 2013 Sun 10:37 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

 

Do you seriously think all these integration policies meant ´FORCING PEOPLE TO BE DUTCH/GERMAN etc´?

Search more!!

 

 

 

sure. i lived in those places. dont tell me to search more. its you who has to research, being the ignorant one here.

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101.       burakk
309 posts
 24 Nov 2013 Sun 10:52 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

We wont need to change the name of the country. We should just learn how to live together and that will be all..

Apart from anything else, say a Turk like me accepted  this racist oath: Closed my eyes, closed my ears etc. But what about the others. Specially the Kurds!! They dont want it naturally.. And that is their basic human rights. Why would a Kurdish kid should be forced to say that every morning? Just to please a few nationalists? Why are we NOT able to accept a Kurd as a Kurd?

That is where nationalism is coming into equation. The nationalism, which you are talking as if everybody has to have it, as you see here is  making people to see others enemy. They think anybody who does not want to say this oath is their enemy. This ideology could divide Turkey.

 

 

if one doesnt want to be turkish, they should leave turkey. how simplier can this get?

 

"i want to sit on the galatasaray section of the stadium. none of you fenerbahçe fans curse galatasaray! it offends me!"

"hey this room is too warm for me. all of you get out!"

"i want to retrain my right to smoke in this part of the bus. you guys can breathe in your own air!"

"i didnt fart. you people smelled!"

 

it looks like this when someone says they want my land because they were not accepted. much worse if they have murdered people with the excuse of not having been accepted.



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102.       Abla
3647 posts
 24 Nov 2013 Sun 11:08 pm

Quote: burakk

if one doesnt want to be turkish, they should leave turkey. how simplier can this get?

 

You are right. It can´t get very much simpler.



Edited (11/24/2013) by Abla

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103.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Nov 2013 Mon 12:21 am

 

Quoting burakk

 

 

sure. i lived in those places. dont tell me to search more. its you who has to research, being the ignorant one here.

 

Really? where did you see they are forcing people to be´Dutch/German´?

Obviously integration policies are NOT about forcing for  immigrants to become Dutch German French etc.

So where is this forcing you believed exists?

Or just making it up? lol

 

Search more!!

104.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Nov 2013 Mon 12:28 am

 

Quoting burakk

 

 

if one doesnt want to be turkish, they should leave turkey. how simplier can this get?

 

"i want to sit on the galatasaray section of the stadium. none of you fenerbahçe fans curse galatasaray! it offends me!"

"hey this room is too warm for me. all of you get out!"

"i want to retrain my right to smoke in this part of the bus. you guys can breathe in your own air!"

"i didnt fart. you people smelled!"

 

it looks like this when someone says they want my land because they were not accepted. much worse if they have murdered people with the excuse of not having been accepted.

 

What if they dont leave? What are you going to do?

What if that is their land too?

What are you going to do?

WHAT CAN YOU DO?

Tell us and compare WHAT YOU want to do with what we have been doing to the Kurds so far.

 

105.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Nov 2013 Wed 01:48 am

You know people may love other people or they may hate them. There are no iron-clad rules. I have listened to many educated German citizens who wanted to send the Turks in their country back home despite all those years and acquired rights of citizenship. They thought a guest population (as they label them again despite tens of years) had to assimilate themselves and live like Germans in the land of Germans. This doesn´t happen because the German government is not officially asking the Turks to leave.

As you see, what matters here is how a government handles this. Everyone must have basic human rights. They are entitled to speaking their native languages and living in their mother land. Kurds are not an exception. The Turkish government is not asking anyone to leave the country either although there is enmity between the Turks and Kurds in general.

Today there is a bloody game being played by the powers that be. They use the Kurds in Iraq and Syria to eliminate the local Arabic governments. Considerable amounts of property and money are said to have been forcefully acquired by these people and it seems they are free to do this just because the US is backing them in line with their shared interests in the region.

Countries like Turkey, Iran are ancient ones. They are matured civilizations. They don´t need anyone to teach them anything. They will have to settle their own problems. One of these countries is playing the religion card to maintain its unity and power and to withstand the erosion caused by the West. Turkey has traditionally been a patriotic country and this is especially so for the last two centuries. A few Arabic countries played this card too but they were overcome by the US. One must be blind not to see that. The  US has a problem with patriotic countries and they are installing their Patriot missile system to protect non-patriotic (moderate Islam) countries.

 

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