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Thread: I would like to ...?

291.       Tazx1
435 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 06:58 pm

What is the most fitting Turkish for > ´I would like to ...´ , instead of ´I will like to ... ´ > as in:-

 

´I would like to go to Istanbul´

 

´I would like to play´

 

´I would like to visit Topkapi´    etc.

 

Thank you members.

 

Tazx1



Thread: tur to eng plz

292.       Tazx1
435 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 02:26 pm

As a learner of Turkish, I am extremely frustrated at the lack [or even complete absence] of punctuation.  This is obviously not a fault of Turkish language, but lack of basic education in local schools ... starting from a young age, perhaps.  This phenomenon is also oberved [but to a much rarer extent] ... in economically deprived parts of the UK.

 

This characteristic lack of punctuation is also in evidence in countries of southern Europe and Greece, to a greater or lesser extent.  Turkey seems to suffer more from it ... and this lack of discipline is significantly more noticeable in those who resort to ´Colloquialism´ [or slang], too much.   

 

I am familiar with Arabic, Farsi and Urdu.  Fortunately these languages have an almost ´in built´ mechanism to deal with punctuation [open to abuse too].  No doubt, Latinization of Osmanli Turkce has had profound benefits, but this self regulating mechanism seems to have been lost.  I often observe, extensive blocks of Turkish text, seemingly written in contemporary ´Istanbul diction´, absolutely devoid of any punctuation.  When speaking ´face to face´, a natural, perceptable, and palpable process of punctuation applies to compensate >> but when people continue to write as if they are addressing the intended ´audience´ face to face, lack of visible punctuation becomes a problem [at least for the ´uninitiated´]

 

Ability of the Turkish ´bilen´ to decipher an unpuntuated body of text easily, leads me to conclude that my lack of comprehension may entirely be due to my lack of Turkish.

 

Any comments?  

 

Tazx1



Thread: yukegin !!??

293.       Tazx1
435 posts
 17 Aug 2008 Sun 06:36 pm

Thank you Sonunda.  I also think that ´yukegin´ is a mistype.  And, I did read the translation you kindly referred to, but wasn´t entirely convinced !!

 

Thanks

 

Tazx1



Thread: yukegin !!??

294.       Tazx1
435 posts
 17 Aug 2008 Sun 06:04 pm

What would  ´yukegin´ mean in this sentence please?

 

" ... ya aklin baska yerdeydi yada yukegin"

 

I can´t find it either online or in my dictionary.

 

Thanks.

 

Tazx1



Thread: please help/ thank you

295.       Tazx1
435 posts
 15 Aug 2008 Fri 07:11 pm

 

Quoting jade_jade

 Söylemeden geçemeyeceğim. Ne kadar güzel resimler. İnsan bu resimlere bakarak sayfalar dolusu şiir yazabilir.

 

 My TRY [be careful ... wait for confirmation]

 

"I am  not going to refrain without saying.  What lovely photograph.  A person could write a pageful of couplets (poem)"

 

[If that is the correct literal translation, then in English, it could be expressed thus] :-

 

I cannot refrain from commenting, ´What a lovely picture!´.  It would inspire an observer to utter a long poem (in praise of it).

 

Tazx1

 

 

 

 



Thread: Why criticism of Islam is a necessity

296.       Tazx1
435 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 08:39 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

This is the reality for millions of lives in the United States today, but instead of addressing the gross injustices in this country, the privileged few yammer away about child brides in Yemen - a criticism which, safely enough, insulates them from having to actually DO something or (worse still) SACRIFICE something to right an injustice.Quote:

 

You obviously haven´t been to this site long enough to know we discuss injustices all over the world. 

 

 Rational discussion is one thing ... hurling and exchanging denegrating language and senseless argument quite another another.  It not civilise to discard the issues and become personal.  Whoever indulges in this, they are not enhancing the ´Forum´.

 

My comments are NOT directed at anybody, they are meant to be a general plea.

 

I have no doubt been hurt by many unjudicious remarks directed at Religious personalities [of whichever religion] ... because the tone of comments seemed to inflame opinions rather than meant examine issues.  Nothing ought to be ´OUT of BOUNDS´, but suitable language is advocated when touching upon sensitive subjects.  If I visit someone in Turkey or Japan, and if they ask me to take off my shoes, I ought to respect them.

 

Religion, despite all said and done, is a metaphysical topic, which needs careful and sensitive handling.  I respect the feelings of Hindus, Jews, Budhists, Sikhs, Christians, Muslims, Parsees and people of no faith.  And, wish to advise fellow members to kindly observe a modecum of good sense.  Every right carries with it a reciprocal obligation.  One should always keep this in mind.  One being a Muslim implies that one does not subscribe to any other faith, but one does not go about denegrading other faiths.  Ostensibly this not ´being FRANK´ rather it is being rude.  To wear a dress to cover one´s nudity is not same as hypocracy.

 

Muslims love ALL the prophets of Allah and hold them very dear.  If one wishes to criticise any of them ... they should be aware of this ... and consequently moot the topic in a spirit of civilized enquiry rather than expressing a controversial opinion just to sensationalise and shock.  Within these parameters, everything is acceptable.  Good sense is all that matters ... and it is hard to define it.  Please, be sensitive regarding sensitive matters.

 

 

Tazx1 

 

 



Thread: Why criticism of Islam is a necessity

297.       Tazx1
435 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 08:11 pm

As a non-Muslim you have every leave to criticise the prophet (saw) ... and use any language you wish.  My advice is to MUSLIMS, and Muslims only.

 

As for others, my advice is only to be dispassionate and rational ... ultimately the choice is there´s.

 

If a Muslim insults any Prophet, including Prophet Muhammad (saw), they are instantly beyond the pale of Islam.  This is fact.  I am not asking you to subscribe to this rule.

 

Tazx1



Thread: Why criticism of Islam is a necessity

298.       Tazx1
435 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 07:50 pm

Dear Fellows,

 

It is a complete and utter lie that Seyyidina Ayesha was ´Married´ to the Prophet [saw] at the age of 6 years.

 

She was bethrothed to effendimiz M [saw] at a ´YOUNG´ age according to the custom of the time, by her illustious father, Seyyidina Abu Bekr (ra).  Her ´Nikah´ and, later her ´Vida´a´ [tranfer as a wife] was at the age of 16 years [quite normal for the Arabs - and even now].

 

I can prove this from history.  let us examine the life of the Prophet (saw) ... because there lurks the nefarious   accusation of Paedophelia in the European mind ... where Paedophelia and incest is a common occurrence in the present society [I was born and live in England].

 

Prophet (saw) was the most kind, considerate, chaste, moral and loving person.  His whole youth was spent in monogomy with seyyidina Khadica [Hatice] ... 25 years older than him.  Apart from seyyidina Ayesha, ALL his wives were WIDOWS, whom he married for reasons totally removed from sexual desires [read his pure lifestyle].  He attained a position in life that he could have kept hundreds odf slave girls and married whom so ever he pleased from among the ´Damsels´ of the richest families.  Did he?  When he died he did not possess even a ´shekle´ of earthly wealth.  Paedophiles do not lead a life of such purity. They are not content with abusing just one ´minor´ it a pattern repeated throughout their life ... it ia character defect.  Do we witness this debauchery and lisentious pattern in the person of the Prophet (saw)??

 

A noted British author has observed: "No great religious leader has been so maligned as Prophet Mohammed. Attacked in the past as a heretic, an impostor, or a sensualist, it is still possible to find him referred to as "the false prophet." A modern German writer accuses Prophet Mohammed of sensuality, surrounding himself with young women. This man was not married until he was twenty-five years of age, then he and his wife lived in happiness and fidelity for twenty-four years, until her death when he was fourty-nine. Only between the age of fifty and his death at sixty-two did Prophet Mohammed take other wives, only one of whom was a virgin, and most of them were taken for dynastic and political reasons. Certainly the Prophet´s record was better than the head of the Church of England, Henry VIII." Geoffrey Parrinder, Mysticism in the World´s Religions (New York: Oxford University Press, 1976, pg. 121)

"But do you mean to tell me that the man who in the full flush of youthful vigour, a young man of four and twenty (24), married a woman much his senior, and remained faithful to her for six and twenty years (26), at fifty years of age when the passions are dying married for lust and sexual passion? Not thus are men´s lives to be judged. And you look at the women whom he married, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection." - - Dr Annie Besant (Dr Annie Besant in ´The Life and Teachings of Mohammad,´ Madras, 1932)

 

Allah destined him to marry Seyyidina Ayesha, so that she could survive the prophet (saw) for 50 years and the almost the whole Sunni Fiqh [Juresprudence] is based upon her dispensation.  The passage of History proved the segacity of this marriage.  As for accusation of adultery ... she was the target of slander by the enemies of Islam at the time, especially by the clan led by Abdullah bin Ubey, the arch enemy ... and Allah Himself absolves her and history proves this. 

 

By all means examine Islam as critically as you please.  But the moral character of the Prophet (saw) ... whether one believes in him or not ... is beyond any reproach.  It is unassailable from any aspect.  Every learned historian ... from every nation ... during earliest times to present day ... have nothing but marvel for this ´perfect human being´ who stands in the full glare of history like NO OTHER PROPHET of Allah.

 

It will not surprise me if people to day begin to accuse him of ´NOT BEING A HOMOSEXUAL´ ... like Christians say regarding their own holy people ... and quote this as a ´STRENGTH´ of the quality of their ´LOVE´ for humanity.

 

I do not need to twist the facts in order to apologise for efendimiz Muhammad.  He needs no defense.  But, I will say this to ALL MUSLIMS ... ´Ba Khuda deewana bashad ... ba Muhammad hoshiyar´ [Farsi] > ´Be as speculative regarding the nature of God as, you wish ... but be very careful with Muhammad (the beloved)´ ...

 

All Prophets of Allah, including efendimiz Muhammad (saw) were perfect human beings sent to guide us in morals.  Any misguided or careless remark regarding any of them IMMEDIATELY removes one from the pale of Islam.  By all means, examine Islam and Qur´an from every aspect ... but please I entreat you [if you wish to continue to remain Muslim] ... not to even think of ascribing even a minor criticism of the prophet (saw).

 

Ofcourse, "La ikraha fid din´, > there is no compulsion in religion, freedom of conscience is guaranteed.  One has full choice either to accept or reject islam.  BUT YOU CANNOT CRITICISE THE PROPHET (SAW) AND HOPE TO REMAIN MUSLIM.   If a Muslim does it under an impulse, he/she will have the whole eternity to regret it.

 

If one wishes to join Salman Rushdie >>> welcome >> but he had the courage to admit that he is no longer a Muslim.  So one is free to make their choice.

 

[Note: If someone wishes to debate the question of seyyidina Ayesha´s marriage from historical sources, please feel free either to send me a private message or e-mail me to momtaazjung@hotmail.com.  The only caveat being that one must be genuine in their enquiry and not conduct and argument for arguments sake ... I have no time for that]

 

***Please be as BRAVE and COURAGEOUS as you wish to be, in discussing aspects of Islam, but do not relinquish impartiality, sobriety and norms of rational debate. 

 

Tazx1



Thread: lütfen e-t

299.       Tazx1
435 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 06:55 pm

 

Quoting Alana86

Dear family.

I promise to take care of your children, and love them.

I want to learn Turkish aswell.

I hope to hear from you.

 

 My try [please seek confirmation]

 

"Sevgili ailem.  Ben, senin çocuklarina iyilikli bakacagimi bir söz veririm.  Ben Turkçe oğrenmek de istiyorum.  Senden duymak için bekliyorum." {or Senin bir mesajine bekliyorum}

 

NOTE:  I will welcome corrections from a native speaker.

 



Thread: T 2 e Lutfen

300.       Tazx1
435 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 05:55 pm

 

Quoting Alisaxxx

Hayat en güzel günleri sen ile olmak (name) Seni sevmek bütün kalp ile (name )

 

Tsk in advance

 

 

 My try

 

The best days of life to be with you Name.  I love you with all my heart Name.

 

[Should it not be ´hayatim´ or ´Hayat-i-(n)-i = Hayatini ?]

 

Tazx1



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