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Thread: Swedish parliment refuses genocide claims

1791.       CANLI
5084 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 12:53 am

Quoting cynicmystic:



I sincerely hope that this link will generate much debate... hehe



İm afraid,it wont lol
You should know better
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_7_30945



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1792.       CANLI
5084 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 12:44 am

Quoting libralady:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Yes, unfortunately they did..all because of this ridiculous idea that women should be free to choose a career instead of motherhood. Too bad the weak western men cannot force them into having 6 children! I say - don't let women into universities. Cynicmistic's idea was not bad - compulsory army service for men, compulsory
breeding for women. The corrupt west could learn something from extended Muslim families!

Long live compulsory procreation

What's freedom of choice if your country's natural growth index is in danger?



I do think it's odd that the instinct to reproduce (said by many to be the strongest instinct in all creatures) is in decline in humans, particularly in the places mentioned.

In all things there is an inner and an outer. There are things that have a price and those that are priceless.

I don't see anything wrong with being a mother or home maker. In fact what is more valuable in the long run? A career that is really just a way to earn a few pieces of silver so you can afford a better home? but you give up making a home to get it?

I find it interesting that women who present themselves as feminists seem to have such little respect for motherhood and what women have been doing for thousands of years. Have you ever heard the saying, "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"?

Is it better to have prepared food from exploited hands in the factory, with who knows what ingredients in it, or food prepared with care to sustain and nourish one's loved ones?

Is it better to send children off to be taken care of those who's motivation is to earn money? I've seen those blank eyed children being pushed around by their sad eyed nannies (whose own children are not being cared for because they have to make a living), while their mothers pursue their "careers"....and I must say it's tragic sight.

Career? What career? 90% of the time you are talking about wage earning employment. You know, making a better widget.. Most women are fitting themselves into a male model, instead of really looking at themselves and making their own model. Many young women now are taking another look at how they manage their careers and being mothers and homemakers and working on redesigning it. My own grandmother had her own business that did quite well. She designed it so she could stay home to be there for her family.

Now I expect to be flammed....how dare I?



Not from me, I agree with you 100%! I am a little "old fashioned" when it comes to children and motherhood and juggling careers etc. My opinion is you can only do one well! And one has an effect on the other. Problems at work cause problems at home and vice versa.

I believe that lack of values in family life and family breakdowns has had detrimental effects on our social structure. But that does not mean to say that every woman has to have 2.4 chilren. Some people would be better if they never had children. Especialy those who treat their children like an accessory :-S



And not from me either,i agree %100.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1793.       CANLI
5084 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 08:18 pm

Quoting thehandsom:



Canli, it is almost perfect what you are saying above.



handsome,what is perfect in what im saying above ?!
Muslims women and Christians women ARE wearing vields in villages

Quoting thehandsom:


Could you tell me what will happen to your marriage if you suddenly decide to show your hair and wear a mini skirt?

I know it is a hypothetical question.
But I will appreciate if you answer.



Well,let's not say mini skirt because it would be wild imagination to take off hijab and wear mini skirt unless im forced on hijab,so its way too far,but let's say if i take of hijab not that i will ever consider it of course

But if i did,while im married i think he may not like it and try talk to me through it,but in the end,he will have to accept it!
You see,in marriage usually people who are close in their ways of thinking they got married
So in my case,i wouldnt pick someone who is conservative to marry,or someone who is extreme too
İn other cases,like such it would cause problem
And in another cases too,men would ask their wives to take it off too
So it depends on individuals
My parents were against my hijab
And my father was against my mother hijab way before me,but still she put it on
So,as you see its defferent from man and woman to another.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1794.       CANLI
5084 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 07:25 pm

Quoting catwoman:


Very nice video, the author states that Muslim Sexual Separation Causes Islamic Backwardness.


İ assume this man is Muslim,or have been following Muslim womens and even got into their minds to reach those conclusions ?!

İ do NOT believe it !
So,now we dont know what we are living through because we got used to it like a victim got used to a kidnapper ?!
And i assume we should wait also for the West to put us of our misery,help us to get through this by reforming our religion or maybe convert it ?!!!!

Look,we are different,and we will be different too
We have different culture and different traditions,Yes we dont much appreciate contacts between male and females unless they are related
And we like it this way

You are not like us,fine,we are different.

We also dont appreciate many of your behaviours in West,and we think its wrong,and we think it brought many troubles to you
Social troubles

Only Western members are more here so you dont feel it

And btw,im not talking about Muslims here,im talking about both Muslims and Christians
Here we are same,with same believes and same traditions

Here in the past,Christian women used to wear viel over their heads,because its ayip to show their hairs
And in village,women still same,Muslims or Christians no differences
And men do NOT force them too,many of our women have their own minds
İ say many,because there are some who are controlled by men also

So its women's choices and women's believes...

Yeah,women making their own bars and we are blind enough not to see it and we are waiting for the West to help us !

UNBELİEVABLE !



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1795.       CANLI
5084 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 06:59 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:



You totally misunderstand this CANLI. If someone compares the PLACE where THEY (who ever thought of putting iron bars and curtains for the womens department) MAKE women pray (not the place the writer of that post asks women to pray) to a cage, it means that the one who ever thought of making such a place for women, thinks of them as animals, not the writer of that post.



You said you have been in Türkiye for 1 year and i believe you have visited it before and went to many mosques
Have you seen such place ?!
İ havent been to Türkiye and im SURE there is no place in mosques with iron bars arround it inside mosque and curtains women pray in
So NO,if there is no such a place and the writer of the post used this word then its HİS own thoughts not anyone one else !



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1796.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 03:26 am

Quoting armegon:

Sorry for interrupting


Anytime lol



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1797.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 02:54 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Oh and CANLI, Im not debating whether you should or should not put your scarf while praying and stand behind a man. Because it is not your choice. It is something you believe and simply have to follow. So it is not discussing about how it should or should not be done, it is about how correct the way it was described is. You are not to question Allah's rules, you are to follow them. And I understand how you want to defend what we say, because your faith is the core of your being. But as an outsider, I can question them and say why I think they are wrong. And I believe that actually every muslim or christian or whatever should think about the set of rules and beliefs they are given, to choose whether it is something you really believe in and therefore are willing to follow, or if it is something you feel is unacceptable and therefore decide that what you always believed in, is not good, and stop being a believer or believe in something else.


D_K,
İ did question my believes,and as tea found it is the suitable for her,i found mine suitable for me too
İ've put on my scarf when im out of my home,not just while praying
İ have put it out of convincing not juts obeying
İf it was a matter of obedience,then i should have put it years before i did,but i didnt!
Even it was an order,and i knew that too,but i didnt obey it then
When i felt i can do it,i did it!
So its not a matter of following orders blindly,or else,you would fed up and will stop following them !

As i said,there are mosques with places for women to pray similar to men's place but apart from it,and there are mosques which doesnt have it,and women can pray at lines behinde men's lines
İ pick first ones,as you know the majority is Egypt are Muslims,so we have many mosques,i can have my pick
İf i dont find one,i dont pray at mosque,i dont pray behinde men and i wait to pray at my house
İ take my pick too
So you see,i dont follow rules that i am not convinced by them specially in behaviors
Things like dont drink,dont eat Pork,dont...ect those i follow as rules
So bottom line is,i also questioned my religion,i've asked,i've read before i obey
And i am comfortable the way it is,and the way i am .



Thread: did you know?

1798.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 02:27 am

Yes,but the voice is not good like in real Azan
İts alive in Azan



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1799.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 02:25 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

But a tea will do too then


İf Turkish



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1800.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 02:23 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:



But apart from your religion, just asking as a social question. Why is it not acceptable to stay the night at a male friend? What makes a good male friend different from a good female friend?



Dont you watch movies ?!
Usually in many cases they end up together,so,if the male friends are good friends,same as female friends,by same feelings 'assuming those female are not lesbians of course !' so how come they can end up together ?!



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