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09 Mar 2008 Sun 01:10 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
Yes, it's a sick world, dominated by men and only THEIR wishes and whims, but by making a law that accomodates this type of behavior is also saying that it's ok that men behave this way, that it's justifiable. It's not OK and it's not excusable. Yes, it still may happen, but at least such men should be judged by the society the way they deserve judgment - the society should say that those men are cheaters, liers, assholes.
What's wrong with men not satisfying their sexual wishes? Plenty women every day go without satisfyiing their sexual desires and tehy survive. Men can do the same thing.
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That will take us from the argument why its allowed in İslam to the one why men are like this !
And that my dear cat...i cant answer !
Quoting catwoman:
But Canli, you are again approving animalistic behavior and not standing on the side of principles. First of all - there you have a good argument agains the war  . Second of all, if two people marry, they should be faithful to each other, there's no excuse to this. |
But we are actually talking about something hypothetically,like Armageddon ''Allah forbidden''
Not any just war,so this cases not everyday cases also,and only then its allowed to have another wife !
Quoting catwoman:
That is true, but also cosider that if you are an oppressed class, you don't have the kind of skills that are necessary to fight the stronger class. Many of these women are taught by their parents taht they have to be obedient to their husbands. How can you come out as a strong, feminist woman from this kind of home? So I agree with you Canli, but I also think that the system has to be abolished and fought against most of all and then we can judge women fairly for allowing men to abuse them. |
That is true,not easy in such environment to be a strong woman tend to change ,and changing such system wont be easy either.
But it can be acheived only by education,so women can make this change themselves.wont be easy,except when many element help,as in my country stiuation
First by education,women from a domain environment will be at same place with women from normal environment
So they will start to question their stiuation,and by time,they will start not to accept it,and bit by bit will be change,maybe men at those domain enviroment wont like it,even fight ir,but at the end they will have to accept it!
Women in my country at the 20th of the 19th were very much submissive to men.
By time and education,their stiuations become better and better but still,man who has the upper hand.
Till wars times...those women actually took full charge,carry ALL the responsibilities.
You cant find any woman is submissive to man except in none educational enviroment
So in my opinion,if an educated woman complaining anything about man,she has herself only to blame
So education is the key
İ dont want them even to be feminist,i want them to know their rights,and grab it,and not wait to be given !
And that is the problem of women in the İslamic world,they actually dont know their rights!
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