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Thread: Takva: A Man’s Fear of God is a film

2181.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 03:15 am

Takva doesnt mean exactly fear as it known in English
İ mean fear means korku
But Takva,means remembering ALLAH or God in everything you do
remembering the principles HE ordered when dealing with other people
dont lie,be honest,give people their rights,make the good even if you have no interest in,see through justice even if you been to unjust....ect
That is what means by Takva as a word



Thread: really short one pleaseee Turkish - english

2182.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 03:00 am

Quoting çiçek:

sen isini bitir msni ver ben eklerim

thanksss


my attempt,
You finish your job,give msn,i add



Thread: Defend Bülent Ersoy

2183.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 06:51 pm

Quoting janissary:



yes she can talk whatever she likes. but wrong place and wrong time. her/his speech just gave more pain to mothers. nothing else. in my opinion she was trying to be more populer and she successed. but it s not a peaceful way. it would be very nice if she gave some messages about the unity of this country at that time.



İ do agree with you
But also i think ignoring her was the best way to reply on what she've said
Threatening to imprison her is what made her more popular.



Thread: Defend Bülent Ersoy

2184.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 06:05 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting teaschip1:

This poor mother... Threatened with 3 years imprisonment...what a bunch of bull.


She is not a mother,she cant be one.



I just noticed that, however it should still give her a right to her opinion...without being imprisoned.


İ agree with that



Thread: Defend Bülent Ersoy

2185.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 05:07 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

This poor mother... Threatened with 3 years imprisonment...what a bunch of bull.


She is not a mother,she cant be one.



Thread: Defend Bülent Ersoy

2186.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 05:05 pm

Quoting janissary:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Janissary, so you think that whatever your country does should be accepted by everyone and no personal opinions can be voiced if they disagree with the country's policy?

Do you think that people who say they are against war should be imprisoned?



of course not. but this is not the point. if turkey attacted Greece or another country, I wouldnt accept it. BUT if ur country is in danger and invaded by enemies, someones have to die for this country and there are millions of young ppl and mothers who will volunteered to be a martyr (not dead, coz it s different). coz everything... ur culture, ur religion, ur life, ur family will be in danger. if u dont understand what are these mean, nothinbg to tell more.



+1
İm not with her been threatened with 3 years imprisonment.
But except of her country army,she wouldnt be here today stating such statment.
No one with war,but if you have to,if you have to defend your country,then you should have strong army donig so
And those mother have sent their kids to the war through the years for people like her to live.



Thread: EROTIZMA-CAN YÜCEL

2187.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 04:16 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:



İ guess you didnt read my post well,
İ've said

Quoting CANLI:



You assumed İslam ordered this,then should we assume Christianity,and Judaism ordered such too ?!
Specially Crusade is well known and it could prove such claim it !


There is the holly book,and its rules,and there are people and do they apply those rules
Some apply it right,some apply it wrong
İts not the book mistake

When a Christian man lies,should i persume that Christianity apply lying or cheeting
Should i think that it ordered it ?!

İ didnt say the East is great and do all the right things,
İ didnt say there are so many things here dont need to be changed
There are
But i said its not İslam fault,İslam has its own rules,and its obvious
People follow or not,its not İslam's fault
İ didnt say there are no Muslim terrorist
There is 9/11,there is Palastin and there is İraq also...so i dont get your point !
You have mosques in your countries,we have churches in ours,so ?

Action of one democratically PARRLİAMENTARİAN person have been elected by his people you mean.
You were free to make your choices,and we are free whether to accept it or not.

İ believe we have problem in clarifying freedom
You believe freedom's limit is the sky
İ believe freedom limits end when it start to hurt some body else

btw,'you' is generally spoken

To answer your question,
[Just a digression here - how many homes for battered women are there in the East? Or how many homes for single mothers?].
İ dont think we have homes for battered women,such women are welcome to go back to their families,family ties here is very strong,so i dont think we need one,even i dont know if we have or not,maybe in the women affair counsel they provide one,that i dont know about.
As for single mothers thank god we dont need it,as sex without marriage not spreading here
But if you mean mothers who lost their husbands and so,again they are welcome at their families homes,parents ,brothers or whatever so they dont need such homes too.

Whether you think İslam is good or bad religion,its your own business actually not mine
My businees is you respect my choice of believes as i respect yours

Stating what your Media provide to you about the East is a fact,is it providing bad things or good things i believe you can answer this much better than i do
But just a note,there is no one or nothing bad %100 or good %100,is there?

West is good or bad, just,or very unjust to Muslims,it wouldnt make us any harm actually
Sadly,it would harm the communications between us

Wehther,West is good,or West is bad,East is good,or East is bad
West and East are there and will always be there wehther they are bad or good so we better deal with that.



Thread: EROTIZMA-CAN YÜCEL

2188.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 02:39 pm

Quote:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I almost forgot that your book is all about interpretation. Its just a pity that that interpretation has caused for such a big split among many many muslim communities (the Sunni branch alone has 4 lawschools with different rules!) that it has become to hard for me to understand what is Islam.




Honey,
There are so many branches in Christianity,and YET you understand it well as i suppose
So we understand ours very well too.

Quoting Deli_kizin:


If its that holy it dont need protection honey!



İf the Bible is that Holy to you,so ours is that Holy too
İ didnt say anything about protection,its about respect

Quoting Deli_kizin:

And yes, it is scary that he is getting more and more votes lately. However, I did not vote for him, yet you keep attacking me. I disgust your way of talking.



İm sorry that is the way you feel,as i said in my previous post,i didnt mean you personnlay
As you said here this man is getting more and more votes lately,then the people there are backing him up,agree with what he thinks,it doesnt have to be you dear,but that is the way many people many people think as you just said,and that makes me more disgusted actually

Quoting Deli_kizin:


Your comments make my blood boil. You say you treat every Danish personally? But you dont want to buy their food? Sorry but how is that personal treatment? What does Danish population have to do with their cartoonist? You are so one-sided in your comments. All you do is get furious. But I agree with what is said before: its a Muslim duty to clear the bad reputation. And your 'respect my holy book'-shouts, will accomplish the contrary!



Actually,i dont agree its my duty to clear anything,i wont be walking arround saying hey guys,we are not bad,just hear us out
No,im sorry,as you dont feel you have to defend your thoughts and your believes,i dont feel same too
And even in a way,Muslims tried it by producing movies about İslam,and prophet but that didnt work well,not many Cinema's bought it there .
They simply didnt want to know !

As for danish,we interact personally as individuals when they come to our country,as you said they dont have anything to do with Cartoons,but in formal level,as a country exporting its product to us,noe,sorry,i dont want to deal with that
İ dont want to buy anything from them,and that is my personal choice too
Dont i have that freedom as well ?!
My comments made your blood boil,so as you said you wont even consider to reply to my post
And their Cartoons made my blood boil too,so i cant even say i dont want to deal with them ?!!!


Quoting Deli_kizin:



Should I respect a book I dont believe in? In that case you should respect a cartoon too, because that is what its maker believed in.

You demand respect from us, but give nothing in return.

I am willing to treat something that is sacred for another with respect. As an example, I am reading Quran and instead of putting it under my bed like I do with all books, I put it high up in the bookcase, so that my partners housemate wont get offended if he sees. I wont crush something of which I know it is sacred for another. But apparantly freedom of speech is not in your book (general). Because you do nothing to respect it. You just want us to respect something that means nothing to us, but are not willing to accept the fact that it doesnt mean anything.



NOT TRUE

İ demand respect from you to our religion and our Holy book,and i offer same too

İ respect Bible and i do not believe in also
As you said yourself,you treat something that is sacred for another with respect
And that is what we do,and demand it also...

You want me to respect who are insulting me ?!
And you are comparing the Holy book with some Cartoons ?
İf you want to do comparision,then compare the holly book with another
Qur'an with Bible,and if we respect it or not

We respect Bible too and it also means nothing to us,and we ask for same respect too to Qur'an and knowing ,accepting it means nothing to you too
But its mutual respect that between people,who want to interact with one another.

And you are doing just this as you said in your post,so i dont know exactly what we are argue about ?
You offer that respect to Kur'an to concider partners housemate feelings,and also he should offer same to your holly book too
That is exactly what i talk about and demand by respect


Quoting Deli_kizin:


You - us and stuff, they are just general. I dont feel like debating personally.. Im glad Im gone till friday, so that I wont have to feel 'insulted' by Canlı who thinks I back up a rightwing idiot politician, and who thinks I am against Islam and enjoy insulting her holy book.



Aynı,just to make it clear again that i dont mean you personally
İm sorry again you felt insulted ,was my mistake i didnt make it clear the first time.



Thread: EROTIZMA-CAN YÜCEL

2189.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 01:40 pm

D_K,i wasnt refering to you personally in my post,and i thought that was opvious so i didnt state it...my mistake
And im sorry if you got offended by that.



Thread: EROTIZMA-CAN YÜCEL

2190.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Mar 2008 Wed 05:10 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

such a weak arguments.



''called for the Koran to be banned and likened it to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf''
Wilders
That is NOT what you can call it such such a weak argument !
Coming from democratically parliamentarian elected by you,that means MUCH im afraid !



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