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Thread: Turkey in EU

3491.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 04:17 pm

Quoting robyn :


actually i know several people that have visited egypt n when they wore bikinis they were told to go n put more clothes on..not sure how that is being able to wear whatever u want..



The Government told them that ?!

İ doubt it !
Dear,we have topless beaches here in our country !



Thread: Turkey in EU

3492.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 04:11 pm

Quoting Trudy:



Canli, please don't misunderstand me, I'm not criticizing or arguing, just wondering. You're from Egypt, aren't you? Can you really say outloud in public what you think? I mean, can you say in public your president sucks? That he's a moron?

Why do I ask this? Because I can say similar things here and no one will harm me or sue me. The only thing I can't say are discriminating things (like all X are Y)- at least I can't say them in all words I choose.

And again, don't misunderstand me, freedom of speech to me does NOT mean everyone can say anything they like. There is always something like politeness and common sense. Though I am happy to live in Holland, I don't think 'our' way of thinking is holy and the best there is.



İn a limit,yes we can say,but not like you i guess.
İ didn't say we live in highly free and democratic country,but at least when it comes to our believes,and personal choices,no one can ban us or argue with that.
Everyone can do,believe what ever he likes,can wear whatever he likes.
You can cover yourself up,or wear short clothes,no one will sue you too,or refuse you,or won't allow you enter your school or Uni !

You don't see us as a free democratinc country,but you say you are free and democratic countries,and want us to learn from your experience to be a modern and democratic ,civilized country,and lose our free,private choices ?

You just didn't try being rejected for your believes,or for the things you wear Trudy.
Put yourself in those girls shoes back in France,how do you think they feel in a so called free country ,which they went there to enjoy their freedom ?



Thread: Turkey in EU

3493.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 03:48 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:


...if he said that france had genocide in algeria,would he get nobel award...


Or İtaly in Libya ,would he get it ?!

We had the Nobel award too in literature years ago,our writer is Muslim,and he had many writtings,great one really,but the award he got it on a story he wrote,and was making fun by ALLAH and the Prophets !



Thread: Turkey in EU

3494.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 03:37 pm

Quote:

Quoting Lapinkulta:


İ believe i had a post here,regarding this point,and btw,i was talking about one of the modern, civilized, democratic countries in the West,not about Türkiye.
About France !

The point is,people should be included all kind of people,even Muslims who live in one of the modern, civilized, democratic western countries.



modern,civilized,democratic country is in the west,France(????????????).France is the country that will punish ppl if they dont accept armenian genocide and give nay opposite opinion about genocide.So where is france's civilization,freedom,and democracy???is giving pressure on any subject to ppl freedom??civilization!!!
Turkey is democratic,civilized and modern country..you can tell all your opinion as orhan pamuk did even he was not expert on the the topic he did...if he said that france had genocide in algeria,would he get nobel award...

think about it CANLI??



Yes Lapinkulta,
İ agree with you,i was refering to France cause its one of the so called modern,civilized,democratic countries,which joint the EU!

And at same time they refuse,or make it hard for Türkiye to join the EU.
They are talking about the freedom and democracy in the West which people enjoying it.
People enjoying freedom and democracy yes,but only people who they agree on their believes,not the people who they disagree with!
So you call this freedom and democracy when you offer it to some,and take it from some ?!

Here too,we are not modern or civilized,democratic country as they see us,just we have thousands of years of civilization!
But at least we can wear and say what ever we like,and they don't ban us for this!

So ironic!



Thread: Turkey in EU

3495.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 03:25 pm

Quoting robyn :

the thing is that islam or any other religion shouldn't be forced down people's throats..by having a government linked with religion i think this will only increase any intolerances for other religions..but then this is just my opinion...im not talking about religion anymore



İ agree with you robyn,that any religion shouldn't be forced down people's throats.

But i don't agree by having a government linked with İslam,that will increase intolerances for other religions.

Because in İslam as you know we have a believe ,ALLAH order us NOT to force religion upon people,everyone has the right to choose his own religion,and it is the government duty to make sure he got all the means to worship ALLAH in the way he choose it.

And as for choosing a government related to religion,it would be the people choice,and i guess it called democracy,Muslims can have democracy too.

And we should respect their choices even if we don't like,because it called freedom too.

Right?

Ps: i guess this discussion related to the topic,its one of the reason that EU doesn't agree Türkiye join,is they consider it an İslamic country !
How democratic !



Thread: Turkey in EU

3496.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 03:16 pm

Quoting catwoman:



That's a very good point, absolutely. Government by any means shouldn't be directed by any religious dogmas, at least in modern, civilized, democratic countries. The reason Europe developed so much is because they diverted from religious ruling to industrial age governed by reason, and left it to people's private preferences what they want believe in or do in their free time.



İ believe i had a post here,regarding this point,and btw,i was talking about one of the modern, civilized, democratic countries in the West,not about Türkiye.
About France !
İ guess i can state my opinion too that religion should be taken into consideration when rulling ,or else it will be interfering with people's freedom,and people's private preferences.

The point is,people should be included all kind of people,even Muslims who live in one of the modern, civilized, democratic western countries.



Thread: You know you're in love when....

3497.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 03:51 am

Quoting kai:

Quoting CANLI:

You first know when you are in love when you strongly start denying that you are ) hee hee



But then what happens when you truly are not in love with them? lol


lol when you are not in love,you won't deny,you will KNOW,,lol

But when you are in love,you will start convince yourself you are not in love,then ...
When it happens,it just happens
You cann't deny any more ) lol



Thread: do you believe to real love?

3498.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 03:25 am

Ok,i'm starting this one,and i guess its related to the main topic..lol

What's true love ?



Thread: common idioms and proverbs

3499.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 03:13 am

Quoting aslan2:

söz gümüşse sükut altındır
silence is golden


We have similar too,
اذا كان الكلآم من فضه,فالسكوت من ذهب
İf talking is made from silver,then silence is made from gold.

Haydan gelen huya gider = easy come, easy go
ًالذي ياتي سهلآ,يذهب سهلآ
What comes easily,goes easily.

it ürür kervan yürür = dogs bark, caravan goes
الكلآب تنبح و القافله تسير

And also we have,
ان غاب القط,العب يافار
İf the cat is away,the mice play.



Thread: plz translate

3500.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Dec 2006 Sat 03:03 am

Quoting doraemon:

Sen uzun sacli Huseyinmisin,uzun boylu?? Bir tande huseyin Newking var di but o artik orda okumuyr galba!Kendini anlt sana kim oldunu sogliyim



My attempt,although its a bit strange to me.

Are you Huseyin with the long hair,tall ?
From dawn Husyin was there,but mostly he from now one not reading.
You explain yourself' like revile yourself'
Let me tell you who are you.

And i guess
Newking,is a wrong spelling for knowing.

To be more sure,wait for a second opinion.



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