You first know when you are in love when you strongly start denying that you are ) hee hee

Well,its not a religion discussion catwoman,its a question about something she'd said in her post,and i didn't understand it.
And as i said in my post i am not criticizing,or anything,not even discussing,but i am inquiring some information about what she said,or the Western understanding about what she said.
And i wasn't talking about Egypt and İslam,it was a comparison,about almost similar stiuation,and different understanding.
Ofcourse everyone is entitled to his opinion,but i was trying to understand her opinion first.

Being drift away from the main topic of the thread,is TC habit
But İ was not guilty about it this time,i didn't do start it ..lol

But you are right,such a discussion is away from the main topic of this thread,and continuing in it will drive it further more.

So,roben if you can pm about my question,i would appreciated it.

robyn ?

What do you mean by İslamic country ?
İs it bad to be İslamic country ?!

For example Egypt is an İslamic country,but it even has Muslims less than Türkiya has,we have many Christians Egyptians,not knowing the percentage exactly,but maybe %25,%30 of Egyptians are Christians.

There are lots of women wearing scarves,but again woman in islamic dress can sit next to a woman in a miniskirt and low cut top without passing comment,
And,here too,if u only have an islamic marriage it is not legally binding.it is also necessary to have a registry office/formal ceremony.
But here,only for Muslims,the law allow bigamy because İslam allowing up to four wives if each accepts it and is provided for adequately.
But for none Muslims,Christians i mean,the law is not allowing it cause its not in their religion.

So that makes it İslamic country or not then ?

So i don't understand what you mean by İslamic country.
İ'm not criticizing,i am inquiring to know what does West means by islamic country?

We are İslamic,but we are having it this way.

And what is haram meat,which is not pork ?
Only pork is haram as i know,what is haram beaf and so ?

As there are some songs were translated in the translation forums,they had been lost under tones of the translation requests,
İ was looking for gönül yarası for example and hadn't found till now.
So i thought to open a thread and post any translation of lyrics here.
So who ever need,can be easy for him to search here.

İf you find any in the translation forum,try to post it here as well

Here,first one ,a lovely song Mirhiban,and been sung by many singers.


Sarı saçlarını deli gönlüme
Your bloond hair crazy to my heart.

Bağlamışım çözülmüyor mihriban mihriban
They said,i'm not tied,mihriban tying me

Ayrılıktan zor belleme ölümü
learning by heart separateness harder than death

Görmeyince sezilmıyor mihriban
When not seeing Mihriban,not being sensed
Sevdiğim mihriban
My love,Mihriban

Yar değince kalem elden düşÃ¼yor
When my love has touch the pen by hand,it is falling

Gözlerim görmüyor aklım şaşıyor
My eyes not seeing,my mind is being amazed.

Lambada titreyen alev üşÃ¼yor
The flam of the lamp is being cold

Aşk kağıda yazılmıyor mihriban
Love not beening written on paper,Mihriban
Sevdiğim mihriban
My love,Mihriban.

Tabiblerde ilaç yoktur yarama
No cure in use at Doctors

Aşk değince ötesini arama
When love has touch the rest,don't search

Her nesnenin bir bitimi var ama
All things has an end,but
Aşka hudut çizilmiyor mihriban
İn Love boundary,not being drawn,Mihriban
Sevdiğim mihriban
My love Mihriban.

Omg,i love Mihriban

İts very lovely song,and great meanings too.
You just ask yourself can all love be like this ?

İ will try to translate it,and hope someone do too.
Btw,its an old song,and has been sang by many singers,Mahsun Kirmizigül sang it lovely too,and i guess İbrahim Tatlises.

deli,i see its ok.

Maybe this can be as,

'benim hic dogum günüm kutlanmadı benim ne gelecek'
İ never celebrated my birthday when it comes.

But same meaning tho.

Accourding to my knowledge,we export camels from Sudan,thats why maybe you saw this truck in aswan,its very near to Sudan.

Yes gezbelle,i understood what you said.

And that is what i was asking about,as you said you've been into Egypt last year,so you know how do we live and how is our country.
And if you say you saw,or heard men offer camels for hand in marriage,its quite strange to me still,,cause its not a common thing even to hear about it here,not only in cities but in the country too!
İf woman got an offer of camels for marrige ,what would she do with it ? park it beside her car ?!
Not saying every woman owns her own car ofcourse,we are not a rich country after all,but camels not normal to see in streets!
Reading your posts,made me feel that we have camels transportations instead of public transportations !

But offering camels for hand of marrige can happen only in Bedwien communities,those are the people who live in the desert,or some who live in Sinai in the mountains.
İ cann't tell you much about it cause i haven't seen any except in TV.
But i guess you know already.

But anyhow,maybe i misunderstood you.

And i guess riding camels would cause less pollution!