When she said that she understands where youre coming from, she meant that she agrees with your ideas that it is a bad poem

And why you have to have experience to see where the poet is coming from? You will realize when you get that experience

 That´s just ridiculous, now you got on my nerves

How did my genuine answer above, in which I gave an explanation to you as far as I could without having seen the show, and asking you for more details so I could give you a better explanation, give you the idea that you provoke me???

 You said ´you guys´ so I thought it was for me as well, yes.

And you misundertsood my sentence there I didn´t mean it in a bad way, I was just having a little laugh as well, meaning that Im glad that at least his effort served the purpose of making you have a good time instead of just hating the poem

The reaction you give NOW is childish.

I´m not mad and I said nothing about you not appreciating what thehandsom did (can you please tell me where I said that?), I just said that I don´t disagree with your opinion and why I don´t agree with it. I also told Libralady I dont agree with her either.

Don´t keep your comments for yourself just because your idea of: ´since ima n ignorant chikd that doesnt understand anything about anything.´. But please keep them for yourself if you cannot stand anyone responding to it or disagreeing with it.

I haven´t seen the show you are talking about, nor do I know what show it is, no place no vatan doesnt sound familiar to me..

And what do you mean by writings on the wall? Just old inscriptions? Then it could very well be Osmanic, which indeed died out. It changed over the years from a complex mixture of Arabic, Persian and Turkish to a more Turkish structure, the Osmanic turkish of the last days of the Osman Empire looked very much like the first ´real Turkish´ of the Turkish republic under atatürk, when atatürk imposed reforms on the language and also changed the Arabic script to the western script.

So yes it is no longer in use, Arabic script was changed for latin script in 1928, but inscriptions on walls etc can still date from earlier times I suppose.

You should be a little more specific.

 Then.. if you have no idea what he is trying to say.. then don´t make a comment that says ´it makes no sense´. You just didn´t see it

Happy to see that you had such a good time though, and all because of thehandsom´s efforts

 I´m sorry, I can understand that you have a different taste in poetry and everything. But you are very wrong to say it has no meaning. You really missed out on some parts of the poem. And would you slap your husband, if he told you you would be the bride if life was a wedding?

 Tastes

Actually I really love Can Yücel.

And doudi is right, generally his poetry has kind of a pervert sense in it, but I cant help but be attracted to it But to say that it doesn´t make sense or that it is extremely humerous..

I guess you missed out on the last 2 sentences who put together the feeling he has for his wife which he shows in the rest of the poem..

 Actually I do too, especially put in the way you said it, CW (I should read something abotu Swedish system). And what you said about countries with legalized prostitution is true. Actually here it has given way for the loverboy-system that has put more, very young women behind the windows. Not to mention the traffic in women that is coming up from East europe to be sold here in Amsterdam (to name 1 city).

However I am not against the legalisation of prostitution as a profession. I am not talking about men selling women obviously, but about women and men deciding for themselves to offer their bodies for money. I see nothing wrong with that, and it is not an illussion that there are people who actually enjoy that kind of work.