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Thread: Turkish Boyfriends and Girlfriends.

1051.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Nov 2009 Sat 11:50 pm

 

Quoting kuskonmaz

Merhaba!

 

I would like to know, traditionaly (and non traditionaly), how long a couple would wait before introducing their boyfriend/girlfriend to their family?

 

I have heard that its not ´important´ to introduce girlfriends/boyfriends to families untill maybe after 1-2 years of dating. Is this typically true?

 

I know its probably different for different people/scenarios, but any insight into this subject would be much appreciated.

 

Tesekkurler

Katerina

 

As Catwoman has already written, it depends on the family.  In rather more "traditional" famlies, there is no dateing what so ever.....there are no boy or girl friends anyway. 

 

One or two years of dating....?????..........only very modern Turkish famlies would consider that. Even in the US, when a friend of the opposite sex is introduced to family, eyes are raised and the introduction is taken as a sign of something very serious........and sometimes it´s hard to convince them otherwise. 

 

 



Thread: what caught my eye today

1052.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Nov 2009 Sat 11:42 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Alameda, I don´t think anyone here thinks organ transplant is a petty thing. So we all know that you need drugs to make it work, and even then, there are no guarantees. If you´d rather die than have somebody´s liver or heart, fine. It´s your choice. And I´m sure that a person who gets the liver you wouldn´t take, will be glad to be next on the list. I sure would

 

Informed decision is the key, hence the donor cards or the ones whose name I have forgotten that say "do not resuscitate". Also, your family should know whether you´d rather live as long as possible even if it means having your bodily functions artificially supported, or would rather prefer to be not supported mechanically.

 

The bottom line is, it should be a matter of preferrence, not general rule or law.

 

Daydreamer.....actually I agree 100% with you.....regarding the matter of consent....and that is the issue.  If someone willingly, and with knowledge donates their organs and tissue, G-d bless them. The probem is too many times this is not the case.

 

How about the people who were coerced out of their organs, or who´s organs were stolen from them?  We know for a fact of the case of Alistair Cooke (I was a fan and listened to his broadcasts every morning), whose tissue was stolen with out permission.  His tissue, being from a cancer victim ,and from a 96 year old was not even legally permissable, but still it was done. It only was an accident that revealed the case......and a whole network of criminals who "harvested", sold and traded in the "tissue".

 

When so much is at stake, there are those who will do highly unethical and illegal things to profit. There has to be a method to clearly limit illegal and unethical "harvesting". It´s downright goulish and gruesome. {#emotions_dlg.puking}



Thread: Kurban Bayramı

1053.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Nov 2009 Fri 09:29 pm

Bayram Mubarak!!!



Thread: what caught my eye today

1054.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Nov 2009 Fri 09:21 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

.............I was talking about accepting other people´s organs...........

 

..........As for AE´s question who can decide whether or not a paralysed person can live, I say it is the person himself or herself. I am fond of euthanasia.........

 

One thing that is often missed is the fact that organ recipients need some pretty nasty drugs to prevent their body rejecting the transplant.  I think we imagine a transplant....then all is well and the transplantee goes on and lives a normal life....not so....

 

Immunosuppresive drugs

 

 

The problem is when people get to the state of being paralyzed...they can´t express their wishes very well.................so it is often others who make the decision for them.

Yet another reason to think ahead.



Thread: what caught my eye today

1055.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 09:48 pm

 

Quoting armegon

An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...

 

I haven´t seen any reference to this in the news anyplace........but under the circumstances......wouldn´t she qualify as a political refugee and be given sanctuary?



Thread: what caught my eye today

1056.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 02:23 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

And I wouldn´t mind having my organs taken if I were in coma for a long time. Pain? So what? I´d rather die than be in a vegetative state. And I definitely would not turn down an organ that could save my son´s life. I´d get one for him even if I had to kill somebody for it. Sorry.

 

Yes, mothers are famous for what they would do for their children.  However, the one whose organs you are thinking about taking are the child of someone, and they may be the parent of someone else...........and don´t forget they may only be paralyzed....not in a vegetative state....they may be fully conscious, but unable to communicate............and they may very well feel.

 

read the article Aenigma posted the link to

 

´A brain scan finally revealed Houben was conscious

A Belgian man who doctors thought was in a coma for 23 years was conscious all along, it has been revealed.

Medical staff believed Rom Houben had sunk irretrievably into a coma after he was injured in a car crash in 1983.

The University of Liege doctor who discovered in 2006 that, although Mr Houben was paralysed, his brain was working, said the case was not unique.

Mr Houben said that at first he felt angry at his powerlessness, but eventually learned to live with it´



Thread: Nostalgy with Sertab Erener

1057.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Nov 2009 Wed 06:26 pm

 

Quoting turkishcobra

I have collected some old songs of her, they are old but still worth to listen.

 

 

Wonderful, thank you Turkishcobra.  This is a great way to learn Turkish....a very poetic Turkish...



Thread: Nostalgy with Sertab Erener

1058.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Nov 2009 Wed 06:24 pm

Hmmm....did you read Merih´s column? It seems Turkish youth are also loosing their vocabulary as the rest of the "Modern" world is....u no?

Quoting vineyards

These are rather old words. New generation don´t know what they mean and usually use them incorrectly. Anyway...

 

Quoting turkishcobra

 

 

 

She should probably have said "kıymetimi bilmeyenim" according to your meaning.

 

"Kadir kıymet bilmek" gains correct meaning if "kadir" and "kıymet" nouns are together.

 

Alone itself, "kadir" noun does not meet this meaning.

 

 

thx

turkishcobra //

 

 

 

 



Thread: what caught my eye today

1059.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Nov 2009 Wed 05:58 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 I would say "I don´t want that liver if it was taken from a man who may have been conscious but was unable to tell anyone, and who may not have been given anaesthetic, so spent his last few moments of his life in torturous pain and effectively was killed so that I could live".

 

+++ {#emotions_dlg.flowers}  good for you.......I think this is called "walking the walk". 



Thread: Swine Flu Discussion; Is Vaccine Only Way to Be Saved?

1060.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Nov 2009 Wed 02:40 am

I generaly avoid vaccinations myself.....but I have more opportunities and choices than some.

 

As a parent, it´s a big decision. We get vaccinated against a lot of horrid diseases and most the time they seem to work. I think it´s best to do research (as you are doing) and choose carefully.

 

Some illnesses were wiped out by vaccinations..things like polio, a truly horrific disease that affected millions of people. Many victims of polio are around still suffering from the effects.  I would not prohibit any child from gettng a polio shot, would you? ..........but I would be very careful in researching and asking questions about just what vaccine was being used.

 

As for flu shots....they only work on particular ones....not all of them. The best tactic is taking care by watching what you touch, wash your hands....stay out of crowded areas....but it´s hard. Everyone does not have that freedome to choose where they go and do not have access to sanitary facilities. They also don´t have access to healthy foods, so it´s impossible for them to fortify their systems to fight diseases.

 

 

Quoting Merih

..........As I am living in the UAE, a main tourist destination, we are hit by the swine flu earlier and harder than many places... now everybody is over it I think.. at least me. .......... I will not have my kids vaccinated, as one of them already got it (confirmed) and got over it, and most likely the other ones too...
  

 

 



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