Living in California I must admit, I really miss the Winter weather, but when it goes on and on and on....................it´s too much........but when those first buds appear on what looked like a dead tree, it´s feels fabulous, like one has been reprieved! I guess you really can´t appreciate it unless you had the cold grim weather................but after all the lights come down and the Holiday parties are over, it feels to me like enough.

Hmmm....that´s interesting..........and I just can´t help but ask....what was,who is, was/where is  that guy now?  Did you have to have that talk with your grandma?

From my research on the subject, it appears that in Iran the veil was illegal in public, and it was removed by force if any woman dared to wear one in public.  Numerous women had their chadors and veils removed by force, the veils and chadors were also destroyed, all this taking place in public. 

Attaturk did not institute such policies, he instead put in place policies to discourage the wearing of such articles of clothing, and one could not get a government job when wearing a head covering.  Of course, we have heard of the protests in Universities and schools regarding the "turban".

The ripping off of veils from the women caused the fermentation of deep resentment that contributed greatly to the Iranian Revolution of 1979

Just starting to read the article now, but I found this below,  which I believe to be inaccurate:

"In the first half of the 20th century, for example, secular-oriented leaders in Turkey and Iran who were keen to modernize their countries along Western lines banned the veil in public – "

I don´t believe that statement is true.  Iran banned the veil in public and did remove them by force.  That tactic was not used in Turkey.  Please correct me if I´m wrong. 

  Thank you Deli....my compliments....you have really done a good job learning Turkish.  I am only able to glean parts of it.

Wonderful transliteration, Thank you Ikicihan!

It helps to read the words and hear the song.  Do you think you could also do a translation? My turkish is not adequate to understand the entire song.

Thank you Armegon,

Interesting story, and a sad one too.  I guess she was a brown haired girl who bleached her hair to be glamerous....she sort of reminds me of the type that Marilyn Monroe was the archetype of. 

The tragic Middle Eastern Star who died young. Her story also reminds me a little of Asmahan, who died in a mysterious car crash.

Asmahan singing in movie

This was yet another duplicate post.  I have no idea why this happens.  If one of the moderators could delete it, it would be nice.

As I understand it, they are illegal aliens in Turkey and as such do not have any rights to services provided by the Turkish government. 

The ultimate responsibility is with their parents who, knowing they are illegal,  put them in the situation. It´s very sad for the children.

It is sort of absurd to expect illegal aliens to have special schools to teach their native language. 

There has been a lot of debate in the US regarding the teaching and propagation of Spanish, however there was a special treaty related to the teaching and preservation of the Spanish language, it´s the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.  That treaty covers a very large part of the US.