I´m only interested in the actual grapes....the wine is of no interest to me.

You do have a point, but those businesses depend on customers.  No customers, no business.  Of course, billions are spent on public relations, marketing and such to instill desire in the potential customers, many of whom have been convinced they really need these items.   In fact, many of the same items have become artificial needs.  Think white collar workers costume, the office blazer..and so on. Nails "need" to be manicured, hair needs to be "done".  One needs certain gadgets........we jam our feet into absurd devices and convince ourselves they are beautiful and we "need" them.  We can hardly even walk in many of these fashionable and very expensive shoes, our hands are not of much functional use when we actually try to walk or G-d forbid, run in them!

We succumb to peer pressure, even as adults.  You are right in many respects, but I still contend we still have a duty to question where the goods we consume come from, and under what conditions they were cultivated, processed and presented to us as desirable necessary commodoties. 

Hmmm.....interesting. I hardly ever look there....I wonder what the numbers mean.

Hmmm....what are you talking about?

  What, where?

Fabulous idea Pita, I´ll start looking up grape jam & jelly ideas.......I made some nice orange marmelade last year....yum....but then I stopped eating toast or anything to put it on....."got a little too rounded for my taste eating it"  A nice breakfast is some cheese, jam and some olives...and nice bread.....hmmm....after the Holidays...too many parties with food...and I have to make about 100 sugar cookies for presents, and roast a leg of lamb for a neighbour.  Of course, I have to test things....

I wonder how grape ice cream would be...or grape sherbert? Frozen grapes are wonderful...sort of like a popsicle...but organic. 

I always thought Muscat was a light green grape, but it seems there are many colors.

"The breadth and number of varieties of muscat suggest that it is perhaps the oldest domesticated grape variety, and there are theories that most families within the Vitis vinifera   Indeed, scientists from the University of Pennsylvania have analyzed pots from King Midas´s burial mound and determined that Muscat grapes were a key component of the alcoholic beverage served at his funeral feast. grape family are descended from the Muscat family."

I would be curious to taste the different ones to realize the difference.  I am not fond of wine, tried it in the past, but it really bothers my throat and stomach so much I never developed a taste for it, so there is nothing I can say about it.  It amazes me that anyone would like it.  All alchoholic beverages burn and cause me serious acid indigestion.  It would be really nice to have the chance to taste some of the different grapes products. We have a lot of winemakers here who have wine tasting tours, it would be nice if they addes other grape products to the tours so none wine drinkers could partake of the bounty of the grapes.

There is the part of the fermentation process before it becomes alcoholic that I like.  One sometimes finds fruits that are in that process.  Olive oil tasting has become more common now, it´s amazing the different tastes one finds.

Most times thumbnails are proportionaly reduced in size, why is this different?

Maybe because this thread is not about prostitution, but human trafficking?  The two are not synonymous.

The Holiday decorative lights are very diminished this year. It is so nice to see them in the evening......I miss them.  There are just a few scattered here and there.  My favorite is when they just outline the house with colored lights, although even the white lights are nice.

Around here we have lighted boat parades....they float/sail around various different water ways. Do you have anything like that?

Here  is a cute video of a lighted boat parade.....you know I HAD to find a link....

Happy Holidays!!!