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Thread: The Enormous / Big / Huge / Large Catwoman-topic....

1441.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Jun 2009 Thu 07:05 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 I won´t go into all this bullshit crap you wrote but on one thing you lied: I never use caps in complete sentences, sometimes I type one word in these, as if I´m highlighting. So don´t blabber about that, Mrs. Perfect-Know-It-All.

 

BTW, I´m soooooooo glad I don´t inspire warm, fuzzy feelings with you. The thought I would do that is making me sick as hell!

 

 If you will reread my comment, you may realize I did not accuse you of the use of all caps in complete sentences.  I did not say you are racist, I said some of your comments were perceived as racist.............there is a difference.... and there were also also compliments directed to you. 

 

I have not ever used curse words in addressing you, nor have I called you derogatory names.  In using Free Speech, my observations and feelings were expressed.  After all, we do believe in Free Speech, don´t we?

 

To add to this, this started when Trudy called vineyards a misogynist....

(Misogyny is hatred (or contempt) of women or girls. Misogyny comes from Greek misogunia It is parallel to misandry—the hatred of men or boys. Misogyny is also comparable with misanthropy which is the hatred of humanity generally).which is a personal insult. 

 

The whole thing could have been stopped there, if the rules against personal insults had been followed.



Edited (6/4/2009) by alameda [add]



Thread: The Enormous / Big / Huge / Large Catwoman-topic....

1442.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Jun 2009 Thu 02:55 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

I think Vineyards that you are a well-rounded, cultured individual. That is why I was surprised to see you implying that Trudy was a racist. If I was her, I would also have thought that you called her a racist.. maybe just your choice of words was not proper in that post.

I also think that your sensitivity towards racism is well justified.

 

 Well, for what it´s worth....Trudy does come off as pretty racist and intolerant to me.  I´m sure this is just a cultural miscommunication, and she doesn´t realize or intend to be perceived in that manner....but I can assure you, she is not seen as particularly friendly to Islamic/Eastern people. 

 

She doesn´t seem to find much to praise about the culture.... and she seems to delight in provoking Turkish men, as well as finds a lot negative things to post regarding the culure.

 

In netiquette all caps is seen as shouting, often times her comments have parts that are all caps.  It seems  shouting....and does not inspire warm fuzzy feelings.

 

Trudy has been very generous in uploading hundreds of wonderful photos and I really appreciate her work and effort.....but at the same time...those same Turks were hospitable and  generous enough to allow her to take their photographs which could be acknowledge in some way.

 

I myself have been a recipient of her ample  "praise".   Now I´m sure I´ll get even more....Angel...but I just wanted to add my two cents as I really don´t like to see vineyards being vilified.

 

As we are devoid of body language, voice tone....as well as communicating cross cultures, things are easily misunderstood.



Edited (6/4/2009) by alameda [edit]



Thread: A TIME TO LIVE.

1443.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Jun 2009 Wed 06:35 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

WITH SUBTITLES IN TURKISH

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x974xc_son-ders_news

 

 Wonderful AlphaF....you have really posted some wonderful inspirational links lately.  Thank you....!



Thread: Denial versus freedom of speech

1444.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Jun 2009 Wed 12:54 am

 

Quoting teaschip

Calling someone "rude" is an insult to most people...sometimes I wander Alamada if you really live in the U.S.  You tend to speak in general terms for all of us...No way

 

 yes you are correct teaschip....however the tone, body language have to also be considered.  Another French person, who is fluent in English explained to me the difference.

 

BTW....is there some reason you don´t spell my name right? It´s Alameda, not Alamada.

 

 



Thread: Denial versus freedom of speech

1445.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Jun 2009 Wed 12:32 am

 

Quoting catwoman

The thing about Limbo is that it shows how misogynist and racist this country is, if a mental person like him can make a career out of talking about his racist opinions... Media does influence the culture, but it´s not that simple... Limbo himself can´t do much.. it has to fall on a ´fertile ground´..

 

sigh....in many ways you are right ........and he tills the ground very well....then he´s not alone...there are a whole lot of them.

 

I do think they encourage things. Sort of like a cheer leader or motivational speaker. They do have an effect.

 

You know there is such a thing as public relations.....aka propaganda....billions are spent on it.....

 

Noam  Chomsky ....Manufacturing Consent?

 

Of course none of it would work if people were not lazy.....but are they lazy or overworked, busy trying to make sense of a very complicated world and looking for shortcuts.



Edited (6/3/2009) by alameda [add]



Thread: Denial versus freedom of speech

1446.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Jun 2009 Tue 10:23 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

Freedom of speech is a complex issue. On the one hand, in Europe it is illegal to discriminate against religions, ethnicity or gender.  Of course it´s not true that Europe is a perfect continent and discrimination never happens. s not influence your right to believe.

 

 

 A thoughtful post as usual Daydreamer....of course, I have some disagreements Flowers

 

The question of when and where Free Speech and Hate Speech converge is difficult to define in light of today´s internationalism.  It is clear that when articles are published & broadcast across an international audience there are very real threats regarding unintended impact and risks are greatly amplified.

 

It seems in the name of Free Speech people are taking license to spew all sorts of venomous bile.  We certainly have a lot of it here in the US....case in point:

 

Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs Responsible for Rise in Hate Crimes Against Hispanics

Some are ignorant and naive; some do it to increase their public stature. I think we need to ask ourselves exactly what are we doing.

 

If we can admit we don´t understand other cultures, maybe then we will understand we don´t realize when we are crossing lines and try to be more careful in hurting others feelings.

In light of recent events, it appears most probable that those limits will be trial.

 

Criminal Code of Canada

Sections 318 and 319 of the Criminal Code make it a criminal offence to:

advocate genocide

publicly incite hatred

wilfully promote hatred against an "identifiable group."

 

Hate Speech

 

....and then there is the issue in legal terms of Provocation.  This is a hot debate and I doubt if we will resolve it here and now, but it´s certainly something to think about.

 

It reminds me of one time I called a French person rude....of which they were greatly insulted and hurt.  In US english calling someone rude is not a big insult, in French, it´s very bad....(rude) and not taken lightly at all.



Thread: COUGAR

1447.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Jun 2009 Tue 06:24 am

 

Quoting Queent

 

 

The scene is from the film "L´Ours" 1988

 

 

Oh, thank you Queent....I found the whole movie here.  It´s in 9 parts.  Beautiful...

 

The Bear

 

And thank you AlphaF!



Thread: Denial versus freedom of speech

1448.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Jun 2009 Tue 03:01 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Reading is not your best quality, is it? I never said ALL Christians believe Jesus is the son of God. I mentioned a variety in Christianity and I said that millions do believe he is the son. You are - again, as usual - jumping to conclusions.

 

 Actually, they do...that is if they follow the Nicene Creed.....

 

First Council of Nicea (325)

 

" We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God], Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father;

By whom all things were made [both in heaven and on earth];

He suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven;

From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

And in the Holy Ghost.
[But those who say: ´There was a time when he was not;´ and ´He was not before he was made;´ and ´He was made out of nothing,´ or ´He is of another substance´ or ´essence,´ or ´The Son of God is created,´ or ´changeable,´ or ´alterable´—they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.]"

 

The only difference is between Trinitarians and Unitarians....which is what the big issue was at the time.

"Unitarianism as a theology is the belief in the single personality of God, in contrast to the doctrine of the Trinity (three persons in one God).[1] It is the philosophy upon which the modern Unitarian movement was based, and, according to its proponents, is the original form of Christianity. Unitarian Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, as found in the New Testament and other early Christian writings, and hold him up as an exemplar. Adhering to strict monotheism, they maintain that Jesus was a great man and a prophet of God, perhaps even a supernatural being, but not God himself. Unitarians believe in the moral authority, but not necessarily the divinity, of Jesus. Their theology is thus distinguishable from the theology of Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, mainline Protestant, and other Christian denominations which hold the Trinity doctrine as a core belief."

 

Here is a list of some of the differences between different schools of Christianity.



Thread: what caught my eye today

1449.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:53 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 No-one who dares to look at the picture of a snake? Laugh at

 

No need to familiarize myself with another snake....I deal with them all the time.....more than I like.



Thread: Denial versus freedom of speech

1450.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:50 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

What´s the difference? Why should I believe in your prophet? I don´t and I can mock about non-existing persons / things.

 

Yes, you can and you do...but don´t expect doors to be opened for you when you take this attitude. 



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