Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Forum Messages Posted by alameda

(3499 Messages in 350 pages - View all)
<<  ... 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 [310] 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 ...  >>


Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

3091.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:33 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

Well, in that case, I should apologise to people here who may sometimes feel offended that I find their personal decision to ignore cruelty, oppression, murder in the name of honour, abuse and rape abhorrent! I realise that it is not a crime to ignore such things and therefore you may not be shot or arrested by police (Vineyards definition of the only things I may critcise)

I would hate to offend their feelings!

What a selfish world this is..



My dear AEnigmaIII....do you really think anyone here seriously supports honor killing, abuse or rape? I for one think they are absolutly horrendous and will do what I can to prevent such actions. What on earth does this have to do with a woman wearing a head covering?

Just because a woman covers her head does not mean she is oppressed, being raped or abused. Maybe she is having a bad hair day. Too much attention and assumptions are made regarding head covering. Why make such a big deal about it?

In fact, the tradition of wearing veils began as a status symbol. From what research I've been able to find, it was part of the initiation rights of the cult of Isis. "no man can see my face" It spread around the Mediterranian as the Cult of Demeter, Our Lady of Biblos and so forth.

Did you see the veiled women links I uploaded in this thread? They are all Greek from around the 3rd Century BC.



Thread: IRAN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS-BUSH

3092.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:51 pm

"hahaha let me laugh with you israel's settlement was on all grounds legal, first mandated by great britain empire, second confirmed by UN. unlike ottoman occupation"


Who granted Great Britain the authority? Was it not "Might makes Right" ? What about the indiginous people? Do they not have rights too?

Anyway, is there really anything to be gained by going over the historic "right" of the creation of countries now in existance. The fact is, there is an Israel now, and there are still indiginous people who have not resolved their issues.

The continued confiscation of property, resources and the murder of Palestinians via extrajudicial execution is an abomnible practice that does nothing to foster the credibility and honour of the Israili people.

Israel's 'assassination policy'

Also in the link to the Grand Mufti...just who put him in place? He was after all the choice of Great Britain.



Thread: Government Administration

3093.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 08:32 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Dear Yilgun, please translate in English for those who cannot read Turkish. Thanks.



Excuse me Roswitha, do you know what the article is about? Maybe getting it translated before posting it would be a nice idea? A link to the original is, I believe, required when posting from other sources. Could you post a link, please?



Thread: IRAN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS-BUSH

3094.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 08:29 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

.......The belief that you are the only intelligent and worthy person to discuss issues is a sign of dellusional thinking...I think there is medicine for it.



Mmmm Elisabeth, exactly to whom were you addressing your comment AlphaF or catwoman? It is confusing.

I think if people include some source material, it's a good idea. Also, if the source material is as neutral as possible, it's even better. At least, that's what I always try to do.



Thread: IRAN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS-BUSH

3095.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:06 am

Quoting AlphaF:

I agree with most of your post Alameda !
Surprised? )))))))))))))

Good news is, as indicated by NIE report I posted,
resistance is booming against the current mighty NeoCon lobby, both within the Democrats as well as Republicans. A strong group of Americans are now fed up with the "spoiled child" act of Israel and the unlimited backing they get from USA. People have started asking if USA is in existence for Americans or for Israel.

A real peaceful solution for Palestinians still seems very far away, if not totally impossible. The real issue is the boundaries of the "PROMISED LAND".



Agreed....although I do think it is actually more complicated than that. It could be that Israel is being "used". Certainly the Christian Zionists do not have lovely end pictured for the Jews in Israel

In fact if you read some of the early proposals the function of Israel was exactly to function as a part of the "Empire". Let's not forget, it was greatly assisted by England in the start. It's too late to dig out that part, in all those documents, but it's there.



Thread: IRAN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS-BUSH

3096.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:04 am

Quoting AlphaF:

I agree with most of your post Alameda !
Surprised? )))))))))))))



Not really AlphF, You seem to be a thoughtful, reasonable and educated person. It IS a complicated mess, but then there could be a breakthrough in a flash....let's hope.

I suppose you have read Edward Said's work? Uri Avnery, Gush Shalom?



Thread: IRAN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS-BUSH

3097.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 07:19 am

Quoting AlphaF:

Exactly Alameda .. LET us all cut the crap and understand what Israil really is !



This is not a simple issue AlphaF. Just what is Israel?

From my observation, Israel is a country made up of a greatly traumatized population. They have had a great damage done to their community for a long time. They underwent multiple attempts to exterminate them as a people, but they survived.

The situation of the Jews requires a great deal of compassion and understanding. Israel exists now, and has for several generations. They have a right to exist and prosper.

One has to admire the Jews ability to maintain themselves as a people for over 2,000 years without a country. They made sure they were educated and they have a unique ability to look out for one another. Can anyone blame them for this?

The problem is: what about the indigenous people? (the Palestinians) The settlers with their land confiscation expansionist policies, and others who keep stirring the pot.

There are many sane Israeli groups who want to make peace and develop a two or one state solution.

The Palestinians, in the words of a Palestinian friend of mine "have not missed the chance to make mistakes" One of their first errors was in joining with the British to fight against the Ottoman Empire based on promises made. Suicide bombers are another big mistake.

The Zionists, Instead of just "trusting" the British, they worked hard to get what they felt they needed, and they were successful.

I'm afraid the current policy of the "settlers" will in the end be very detrimental to the State of Israel.

Unfortunately, the Palestinians are being driven to madness. Being bitter and resentful will not help. It does not matter if one is right or not, if one works against ones objective by things like suicide bombing. The right is lost in that case.

I sympathize greatly for the people of Palestine, but they do need to develop better tactics and a real workable plan. The best thing for the Israelis would be to stop with the Wall, learn to live with their brothers in peace.....

Aahhh, I can dream and hope. I have hope for a better future, I have hope for peace.



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

3098.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 02:36 am

STOLEN : MARBLE BUST OF VEILED WOMAN

Palmyran Statue Fragment of a Veiled Dancer

Bronze statuette of a veiled and masked dancer, 3rd–2nd century B.C.; Hellenistic



Thread: IRAN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS-BUSH

3099.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:42 am

Quoting AlphaF:

check the Judaic books...That is what worries me !



ummmm.....is this what you mean AlphaF?

Greater Israel

or

Promised Land


Wouldn't it be wonderful if this mess could be peacefully resolved?.....I dream...

The Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem:

McMahon-Hussein Correspondence



Thread: IRAN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS-BUSH

3100.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 09:21 pm

Regarding Palestine/Israel

United Nations Information System on the Question of Palestine

There are maps or pre 1948...and a lot of material from 1919 to 2007 to review.



(3499 Messages in 350 pages - View all)
<<  ... 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 [310] 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 ...  >>



Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
Crossword Vocabulary Puzzles for Turkish L...
qdemir: You can view and solve several of the puzzles online at ...
Giriyor vs Geliyor.
lrnlang: Thank you for the ...
Local Ladies Ready to Play in Your City
nifrtity: ... - Discover Women Seeking No-Strings Attached Encounters in Your Ci...
Geçmekte vs. geçiyor?
Hoppi: ... and ... has almost the same meaning. They are both mean "i...
Intermediate (B1) to upper-intermediate (B...
qdemir: View at ...
Why yer gördüm but yeri geziyorum
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, makes perfect sense!
Random Pictures of Turkey
Most commented