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Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

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thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 02:26 pm

Quoting Waseem_UK:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting zbrct:

Really...? So what about those Turkish citizen girls who want to study and work with their head scarfs?

Oh ok, I understand now. We want freedoom just for ourselves...But that is not sincere...

Well..I already told above that turban ban in universities should be removed. And about the work. what about the private sector? I already told that the STATE should have equal distance to all its citizens. It is the reason any statement relating to religionS should not not be allowed..
I would not want a monk in orange dress as a teacher for example..
would you?

As long as the monk in orange dress is qualified to teach the subject, I don't mind. I don't look at the appearance of my teachers, only the ability and quality.

Well.. Most of the muslim parents wont like a teacher wearing priest costume and a huge cross neckles..
wont you mind yourself for example?

Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

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thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 02:23 pm

Quoting Waseem_UK:

Quoting thehandsom:

Well... I never said anything about the kurds or kurdish..did I?
I am not talking about STATE what to decide about its people..
I am saying that it is STATE'S DUTY TO BE EQUAL TO ALL ITS CITIZENS.
I would not want to deal with a man wearing a priest costume when i want to pay my council tax..
Is that not simple?

Does it matter so much what the person you're dealing with looks like?

It would not matter much to me..
But it will/may matter to a muslim person.

Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

6683.

thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 04:21 am

Quoting kaddersokak:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Quoting thehandsom:

Well..
I want to see a Turkey, which its citizens are not afraid of speaking their language or say what their origins are..

In your dreams maybe...

This is unbelievable! lol

I have never actually seen a real racist in my life, so I'm really honored to meet a Turkish racist here! What an amazing experience...

(I am really cracking here )

OK now I understand why you support the ban on head scarf in Turkey.

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_7_25909

I think girls need that stuff you showed in post 4 not the head scarff

haha..you are making your mind up so fast..
I will recommend http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_7_25909_4 number 38
Sorry really

Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

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thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 04:12 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Quoting thehandsom:

Well..
I want to see a Turkey, which its citizens are not afraid of speaking their language or say what their origins are..

In your dreams maybe...

This is unbelievable! lol

I have never actually seen a real racist in my life, so I'm really honored to meet a Turkish racist here! What an amazing experience...

(I am really cracking here )

Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

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thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 04:01 am

Quoting kaddersokak:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting kaddersokak:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting kaddersokak:

By the way, we should also limit freedoom for the Kurds, right?

Yeah, I also think they have too much freedom right now. I mean, being a Kurd has become more than an honor in Turkey.

I really like the logic you guys have: You want freedoom just for yourselves and for the ones you think they deserve it

You just ignore the the others who suffer

Good for you...This should be the modern civilization...

P.S. Please ignore my previous long post which includes 3 articles by Nihal Bengisu Karaca...

haha
Freedom should be for everybody..
And democracy is misunderstood by Turkey's islamists.. T
hey think that if they come to power or if majority wants sheria is very democratic.
Nope..
It is not..Even majority is 99%..It is not..

I know...That is why I am very happy. As our army generals repeatedly say Turkey has two main enemies: Political Islam and Kurdish Nationalism. Thanks to our special democratic systems neither head scarf nor teaching Kurdish in public schools will never be allowed. I am really happy we have a SECULAR and NATIONALIST state and ARMY.
By the way, you are not Kurdish, are you?

Well.. You can be very happy..But I am not really.

We have kurdish nationalism problem in Turkey because of the mistakes mainly done by the army itself.
And about the political islam, I am sorry but Sheria is dangerous for any type of democracy..
Dont you agree?

Thread: turkish guys!

6686.

thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 03:51 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting lady in red:

Welcome lagushka and catherine!!! We need some new members - we have recently lost a couple of our regulars!!

Hmm.... lagushka and catherine will perfectly fill in for... Gabby?

Sorry..but I dont think so

Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

6687.

thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 03:48 am

Quoting kaddersokak:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting kaddersokak:

By the way, we should also limit freedoom for the Kurds, right?

Yeah, I also think they have too much freedom right now. I mean, being a Kurd has become more than an honor in Turkey.

I really like the logic you guys have: You want freedoom just for yourselves and for the ones you think they deserve it

You just ignore the the others who suffer

Good for you...This should be the modern civilization...

P.S. Please ignore my previous long post which includes 3 articles by Nihal Bengisu Karaca...

haha
Freedom should be for everybody..
And democracy is misunderstood by Turkey's islamists..
They think that if they come to power or if majority wants sheria is very democratic.
Nope..
It is not..Even if the majority is 99%..It is not..Sorry

Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

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thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 03:39 am

Quoting kaddersokak:

Quoting catwoman:

The thing is that Turkey is not a liberal country and has severe violations of free speech, therefore it is somewhat dangerous to give religious freedoms (read: islamic ONLY!) and not enforce freedoms FROM religion. If a president preaches about religion, and is a former imam and a former leader of an islamist party... not much good can happen for liberal values there.

Especially we should end democratic freedooms in Turkey because half of the Turkish population have voted for the president and prime minister that you are blaming...

By the way, we should also limit freedoom for the Kurds, right?

Secularism is a MUST for any given democracy in anywhere in the world.
And asking the STATE being a proper SECULAR STATE is absulately necessary in Turkey.
For example, not letting jesus's picture in government offices is perfectly normal for a state. (he/she is allowed at home for example) and it is nothing to do with democratic freedom..
You are mistaken there.
You misunderstood what democracy or what secularism is..May be..

Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

6689.

thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 03:06 am

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Quoting thehandsom:

Well..
I want to see a Turkey, which its citizens are not afraid of speaking their language or say what their origins are..

In your dreams maybe...

Thread: headscarf was still a social problem

6690.

thehandsom
7403 posts

10 Jan 2008 Thu 03:04 am

Quoting zbrct:

Really...? So what about those Turkish citizen girls who want to study and work with their head scarfs?

Oh ok, I understand now. We want freedoom just for ourselves...But that is not sincere...

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