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Thread: Uskudar

1571.       vineyards
1954 posts
 26 Sep 2007 Wed 01:04 pm

I live in Feneryolu, Kadiköy. If you want the sea view and wish to be close to the crowd look for hotels at Kadikoy Rihtim (harbour). I saw a boarding house in Fenerbahce on Trudy's list which may be interesting. (Pansiyon means boarding house).

Fenerbahce is a very pleasant place to spend time. It has a nice coast. It is mostly a residential area and it is a lot calmer than the European side. If you are a barfly, the bars and pubs in Bahariye, Kadikoy in walking distance. If you walk to Bagdad street (probably the nicest street in Istanbul with lots of fashion stores etc.) you can hail a dolmus to Taksim. If you are not doing that in the rush hour, you will be in Taksim in 15-20 minutes. There is of course Beyoglu there and all the night life.

Six kilometers or so to the East from Feneryolu, there is Bostanci. There you can take a boat to the Prince Islands. It is an archepelago consisting of 9 islands (5 larger and 4 very small ones). The trip takes 40 minutes or so (depends on the boat). You could rent a bcycle on the islands. It is very pleasant especially in the spring. There are also many beautiful mansions and nice looking old buildings there.

If you go to Buyukada drink a glass of tea at Madam's Café to the left of the pier and go to the bcycle rent shops 200 meters up from the main street just after the little clock tower. After pedalling a while you will see a square with many horse carts parking on one side of it. You will see a very steep road climbing all the way up to the highest point of the island. That point is called Aya Yorgi (Hagia Gheorghi). There is an old church up there. In the back of the church there is an open air restaurant. There you can see the sea in all directions. The view is breath taking. Wait until the sun set if you have time. Order meatballs (if you are not a vegeterian) and a glass of the monk's wine as they call it. (Actually the wine is brought from Bozcaada which is another island in the Aegean).

When you are back to Feneryolu, take a taxi to Camlica and don't forget to bring along your camera. You can take postcard like photos of Istanbul and Bosphorus from Camlica tepesi which is one of the highest points in Istanbul.



Thread: Can I be a sociopath?

1572.       vineyards
1954 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 03:16 pm

In every writing, there are some exageration, some drama, some tragedy and a host of other writing techniques. In other words, I am offering you a beverage distilled from my human feelings. It is a bit condensed and stronger than the real thing just like wine being stronger than grape juice and cognac being stronger than both of them. The purpose is getting you to drink it.



Thread: informal thoughts on Turkish Class

1573.       vineyards
1954 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 06:34 am

It is impossible to establish a complete control over all the aspects of life. It is in man's nature to have a desire to use opportunities. If you find an abandoned newspaper on the bus, you would like to read it. If you are a very rich person, you'd spend a poor worker's annual income on a dinner party and that would be perfectly normal to you.

No matter how much you complain of the way governments and media use the coercion they have; they will always be in place and running on their own natural paths.

When you study society in a wider context, you will notice how archaic it actually is. Just like myriad layers of sediments forming in a lake, the traces of bygone years are perpetually recorded in the muddy waters of society. If we could drill through all these sediment layers and reach the end of it, we would probably find a caveman there who is responsible for all that mud and blur.
Generation after generation people did their best to destroy the caveman by constantly improving all the aspects of society. Yet the caveman is still with us. We took the axe in his hand and gave him a-bombs to nuke tens of thousands of people in one go.

As a matter of fact, patriotism is very much like the love you have for your family. You love your country, and your identity. If there is love in your family chances are that there is love in you too. You open up your eyes to the beauties of this world then. Because you are a love child and you know what love is. Your parents loved each other and you learned from them. Similarly, if you love your country and feel that you can do whatever sacrifice to save it just like you would if your family were in danger, that will not do any harm to anyone. It will indeed make love prevail.

Here is the magic formula: love yourself, love your family and friends, love your country and love this world that we all live in.

I am in love with this world. I thank million times to the unknown creator for the oxygen it gave us, for the sun that heats and energizes us, for the abundant foods and all the other riches we are given.



Thread: informal thoughts on Turkish Class

1574.       vineyards
1954 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 12:09 am

Everyone has a different view of certain concepts. For example, what is regarded as a religious requirement by some can be seen as an act of barbarism by others. There used to be people who sacrificed their lives with all the best intentions in sake of communism but to some others they were just a bunch of bastards whose heads had to be crushed.

If your understanding of patriotism is more in the lines of chauvenism then you probably see no difference at all between patriotism and nationalism either. This kind of a misconception is very much like my regarding a dentist as a torturer no matter how useful in reality a dentist is.



Thread: informal thoughts on Turkish Class

1575.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Sep 2007 Mon 04:32 pm

So, The Empire Strikes Back!
Let's put the record straight. You insulted me in a private message and when I complained, you said it was a private message. Then I sent you a private message and asked whether it would be OK if I called you "a bitch" or "a slut" because it was just a PM.

You also publicly accused me of sending you vile PM's in which I insulted you. Being in suspicion I found and posted the originals of those messages to prove that they did not contain any insulting words. Then you accused me of violating your privacy by posting messages sent to you in the public forum.

Now are we facing yet another lie Ms. Aenigma?



Thread: Hi, looking for Turkish info! Ancient....

1576.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Sep 2007 Mon 04:14 pm

Dead sea is a geographical term describing a part of the sea with a very narrow opening to the main body of the sea. On account that they are very calm and isolated from the main water they are called dead seas. We have one in Fethiye and I suppose there are hundreds more around the world. Ours is quite famous too by the way. I suppose the reason why you remember the one in Israel is because of the Qumran scrolls they found in the vicinity of a dead sea there.



Thread: informal thoughts on Turkish Class

1577.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Sep 2007 Mon 03:55 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Vineyards has the right to defend patriotism and femme has the right to criticize it. I don't understand though why vineyards feels the need to bash her personally in his post. Would that mean something about himself as a person?



Catwoman, although I am not a believer I like this Islamic notion probably derived from the Quran itself: "If you are rich or mighty you are in a greater peril of sinning since you are capable of more malice than others. In the end, God only knows who is really right or who is really wrong."

As a moderator, you made a number of mistakes in the past. Those mistakes violated the freedoms of speech of a number of people. You knowingly deleted some of their messages and also your replies to those messages. You didn't have a right to do that. This site maybe yours and you may close it down any second you wish but you have no right to start a public forum and turn it into your own playhouse. If that is your intenetion, you should put a disclaimer notice and notify people that their messages can be deleted or modified arbitrarily. Who would post messages in your forums under those circumstances?

I expected you to apoligize on realizing your mistakes. You didn't do that and turned a deaf ear to people's complaints completely disregarding their protests against certain other members who openly bashed them. You don't have a right to complain about the current situation anymore.

Do you realize now how grave your mistake was?
Do you realize that we would not have to go through all these flaming circles if only you could act the way a moderator should.



Thread: Association Chain

1578.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Sep 2007 Mon 03:33 pm

Varlik has following connotations:

assets, resources, existence, presence.

Varlikli means wealthy.

Some examples:
Varligin beni mutlu ediyor.
Your presence makes me happy
Varlik icinde yokluk cekiyoruz.
We are suffering from poverty/shortage of something whereas we have all the resources (probably due to mismanagement).

Varoluş = existance
varoluşÃ§uluk existentialism



Thread: informal thoughts on Turkish Class

1579.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Sep 2007 Mon 03:35 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Chantal:

He was a great translator and was very well able to explain things!!


he was a hero to me
the only turkish male with balls to speak of the dark sides of turkey
i just cant understand the patriotism of all of them. :S



It is not that you can't understand Turks' patriotism, you have actually turned that matter into an obsession; you are pretty much stuck with it. This subject obviously starts you up because you seem to like tug-of-war games and you reckon you are always on the stronger side. After all how wrong can you be when you are so sure you have the right culture and the right values.

That's probably why every now and then you judge them, mock them and call them cowards using slang and provocative expressions.

You will probably continue having problems understanding Turks, Greeks, Bulgarians or all the others whom you have a chance to know. On your abacus, Bush and all the excellent things he has done to the humanity are nothing but a bead drawn to the left or right. For us to be even, we need to sacrifice Ataturk or some other Turkish leader. This way the abacus will look just and right.

As a matter of fact, much of your problem stems from that very same primitive abacus you are using. You should obviously neither judge nor appreciate a culture in such simple terms.

A culture, its language, its values and traditions form a perfect entity. It takes even college professors years to understand their mysteries. When you ridicule people's thoughts like that, you are actually ridiculing yourself. Guess why?



Thread: Sammy Davis Jr.

1580.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Sep 2007 Sun 03:10 am

Sammy Davis Jr. ( 1925-1990 )

I would like to unofficially declare the week of Sunday 23, as the week of rememberance for Sammy Davis Jr. for the Turkish Class community.

The observance of The Rememberance Week activities is neither obligatory nor does it involve anything more than just a few mouse clicks at Youtube.

I believe you will enjoy the relaxation you will get from listening to this past master who was highly acclaimed in his day, for his singing, dancing and acting.






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