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Ottoman Armenian - exhibition
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1.       libralady
5152 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 03:04 pm

Ottoman Armenians: Final Images

Exhibition of photo's now being held in London for anyone interested.

2.       aslı
342 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 04:20 pm

are there any rich and happy people in photos?

3.       Isthar
19 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 04:24 pm

This page is not for making propaganda about imperialist lies..I condemn you for moving one of them on this webpage.."alleged Armenian genodice" is a big imperialist lie. Please dont be creature to this lie.

Regards.

http://www.ttk.org.tr/templates/resimler/File/fulltext/Belleten_Makale/bel222-381_449.pdf

http://www.ttk.org.tr/index.php?Page=Sayfa&No=90

4.       aslı
342 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 04:29 pm

I just asked. Because ı get bored to see death people's photos during ww1. Genocide is a too strong word even for u.

5.       aslı
342 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 04:33 pm

By the way ı searched by myself this subject. It really is more than lie. I meant, they were richer than Turks during ww1, and tey were happier than turks because tey dont have to fight.

6.       Isthar
19 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 04:36 pm

I had said for "libralady"..If you look at that page that you would see what I mean..that exhibition is intending for the "campaign for recognition of the Armenian Genocide"...

7.       aslı
342 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 04:57 pm

The more we get angry, the more they get pleased. Say come and see our archives. But they won't, because pretend like innosent takes symphaty votes.

8.       libralady
5152 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 05:48 pm

Quoting Isthar:

I had said for "libralady"..If you look at that page that you would see what I mean..that exhibition is intending for the "campaign for recognition of the Armenian Genocide"...



But that is not why I posted this, it is for other peoples interest or not as the case may be. I am not here to argue for or against something I know nothing about.

9.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 06 Apr 2007 Fri 09:49 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting Isthar:

I had said for "libralady"..If you look at that page that you would see what I mean..that exhibition is intending for the "campaign for recognition of the Armenian Genocide"...



But that is not why I posted this, it is for other peoples interest or not as the case may be. I am not here to argue for or against something I know nothing about.



you should have learnt by now that us non-turkish people need to keep out of turkish debates on areas like this

10.       metehan2001
501 posts
 07 Apr 2007 Sat 02:14 am

YUSUF HALACOGLU: ERDOGAN SHOULD DEMAND 19 COUNTRIES TO GROUND THEIR RECOGNITION OF ‘ARMENIAN GENOCIDE’
03 April 2007, Resource : Turkish Press

“Prime Minister Rajab Tayyib Erdogan should immediately appeal to 19 countries, which recognized the events happened in 1915 as genocide. These countries should be demanded to ground their decisions to recognize these events as genocide. The Prime Minister should note if these countries can not give proofs, we will break all relations with them,” chief of Turkish Historical Society, Professor Yusuf Halacoglu told the APA’s Turkey bureau.
“I am sure that none of these countries will be able to reply to us within a month. Then the Prime Minister should hold press conference and clarify Turkey’s relations with these countries,” he said.
The professor suspects that some documents in Armenian archives have disappeared.
“We will soon find out whether our doubts are groundless or not. Foreign scientists want to investigate mass graveyards in Turkey, and the government has already given positive answer. Such a mass graveyard will be opened in Hatay on April 24. Unlike Armenians, we announced that our archives are open. Turkey is ready to pay for opening dashnak (Armenian) archives in Boston,” he said.
Chief of Turkish Historical Society also spoke of the necessity of united struggle against claims on ‘Armenians genocide’.
“Armenia does not recognize Turkey’s borders regulated by Kars treaty of 1921. Why does Armenia demand opening of the neighboring country’s borders which it does not recognize? Border is the main means to exert pressure on Armenia – when 20% of Azerbaijani territories are under occupation. No government in Turkey can bring the issue on opening of borders with Armenia,” he stressed.

11.       metehan2001
501 posts
 07 Apr 2007 Sat 02:20 am

(An Intervew on the Lies of Armenian Genocide)
You can read the whole interview in the following link.

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/interview-weems.htm#sw

Sam Weems was the unbelievably rare American who wrote such commentaries (along with his amazing book, "Armenia: Secrets of a 'Christian' Terrorist State") coming from a devout Christian perspective. He discovered the awful scam the Armenians have committed upon the world since World War I, and was outraged enough to do what he could to awaken the many dulled and prejudiced minds brainwashed into believing the Armenian "Genocide" actually took place. He travelled to many countries conducting meticulous research on his own coin, and reportedly got almost financially cleaned out by the end of his life. He did all this not because he loved the Turks, but because he loved the Truth... and also because of his hating the fact that his beloved America has been taken for a ride all these many years by the wealthy Armenians and their "multi billion dollar fake 'genocide industry'," as he put it. Sam Weems was a great American, and a great man.

Let us begin with the Commentary Table of Contents:


Historical Evidence Proves There was No Armenian Genocide


...There was no genocide and there is proof that the Armenians cooked the books and counted people removed as both massacred and as refugees.

29. Are their newly emerging Armenian terrorist groups, perhaps with ties to groups on the US State Department's list of terrorists?

I don't have knowledge for certain about this — I would not at all be
surprised if it was true. Recently a major TV network reported that
Armenian banks had direct ties to terrorist groups. Armenian Americans immediately organized and campaigned for the TV network to retract the story.


30. Can you please explain how your background as a state prosecutor has helped you to write this book?

Two things: Good research skills and the habit of always looking to tie events together to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt.

I used perhaps as much as 90% research from Armenian sources to write my book. One clue would lead me to another and then to another and I simply developed my book point by point.

Permit me to share one example: On the second page of his Armenian history an Armenian professor * stated there were two million Armenians living within the Ottoman Empire in 1915. Later he claims more than 1 million of this number were massacred by the Turks. In another book the good professor provides numbers to prove that there were about the same number of Armenian refugees as the original population, thus disproving his own
genocide claims. I didn't have to do anything to prove or disprove
genocide. I let the good Armenian professor do the documentation. I just pointed to the obvious, blaring discrepancies.

The proof is that about half of the Armenians living within the Ottoman Empire didn't live in the war zone in Anatolia and were not removed. This good professor listed footnotes and when I checked them out I discovered that there were several American and British eyewitnesses. All I did was to sum up the numbers supplied by the Armenian historian and his simply didn't add up! I also then went to British, French, Russian and Italian historical numbers (also listed by the Armenian historian). When you take all the numbers together plus the American and British eyewitnesses, there it is-plain as day — there was no genocide and there is proof that the Armenians cooked the books and counted people removed as both massacred and as refugees. When they wanted pity, money, and
reparation, all these refuges were "killed"; but when it was time to prove to the West that Armenians did have numbers to establish a state of their own, all of those "dead" refugees, all of a sudden, came back to life! Magic!.

12.       metehan2001
501 posts
 07 Apr 2007 Sat 03:43 am

Quoting robyn :

Quoting libralady:

Quoting Isthar:

I had said for "libralady"..If you look at that page that you would see what I mean..that exhibition is intending for the "campaign for recognition of the Armenian Genocide"...



But that is not why I posted this, it is for other peoples interest or not as the case may be. I am not here to argue for or against something I know nothing about.



you should have learnt by now that us non-turkish people need to keep out of turkish debates on areas like this



First, send a post which is somehow blames/ accuses/ridicules Turkey or Turks, and then if any Turk gives his/her opinion against that post, (as a group)attack on him by saying that:
"you should have learnt by now that us non-turkish people need to keep out of turkish debates on areas like this"(Robin)

So, if a few people (together and at the same time) blames native Turks as being 'offended' or 'patriotic' ones, the other users also will start to think that it can be true. Then, many users will also say: 'Yes. Here, in this site, there are some people that they don't allow us to talk on the different subjects freely. I am getting to think that it seems an organized plan.

Do you think that the first post is just an innocent one in this forum? Any person related to Turkey, Turkish language or Turkish people know that The Armenian Issue is one of the sensitive problems for Turkish people. Knowing this fact, if someone still sends such a post, it means that he or she, intentionally, wants to provoke native users for a polemic. It could be a a kind of game for people who send such posts, but they should remember that they really hurt us.

What I am trying to explain here is not something related to the rights of expressing ideas freely, but it is something related to respect the other people's national feelings and sensitiveness.

Can't we find other subjects to talk about in this world?

13.       admin
758 posts
 07 Apr 2007 Sat 07:42 am

I locked this thread because it is a controversial and highly politicized issue (Rule number 10 in our forum rules).

http://www.turkishclass.com/TurkishClassRulesAndTerms.php

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