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Elections.....
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19 Jul 2007 Thu 08:35 pm |
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Hi everyone
I get frustrated with all these politicians who say they are working in Turkeys best interests, and then squabble with each other (even within their own party) so the real issues i.e. unemployemnt, education, health system etc dont get discussed, and they spend all their time throwing mud at each other.
Really it is a case not of voting for the best, but the least worst.
We need more men of vision like Atatürk ... that would make chosing who to vote for easier.
Hayırlısı olsun!
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20 Jul 2007 Fri 12:11 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: DSP has purer, more universal, socialist political principles. CHP is socialist as well , but contains nationalist undertones. |
If you go to google and write Define:socialism you will get the following entries.
A system based on public ownership of the means of production and distribution of wealth.
a system or theory of social organization in which the producers possess both political power and the means of production and distribution.
An "economic, social and political doctrine which expresses the struggle for the equal distribution of wealth by eliminating private property and the exploitative ruling class. In practice, such a distribution of wealth is achieved by social ownership of the means of production, exchange and diffusion.
You might say that they are social democrat but not socialist.
And also DSP describe themselves as "ulusal" sol. So that doesn't mean universal. TIP was socialist but SHP,CHP,DSP were social democrat.
Also IP is Isci Partisi(Labour Party). They are Nationalist "left". I think you understand what i mean there Trudy.
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 01:08 pm |
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Everything is for Turkey..I hope Turkey is going to be a winner after today...
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23 Jul 2007 Mon 12:20 am |
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Turkey passed from this democracy exam with a big success,so more peacfull and more light tomorrows waiting Turkey from tomorrow
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23 Jul 2007 Mon 12:35 am |
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results of the elections
AKP: %46.63 342 MPs (conservative)
CHP: %20.91 111 MPs (nationalist left)
MHP: %14.27 70 MPs (nationalist conservatives)
Independent: %5.2 27 MPs (mainly pro-Kurdish and left candidates)
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DP: %5.42 (center right)
GP: %3.04 (nationalist conservatives)
SP: %2.33 (Islamist conservatives)
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BTP: %0.52 (Islamist conservatives)
HYP: %0.5 (i don't really know how to define them a mixture of everything)
IP: %0.36 (National "socialists")
ATP: %0.29 (nationalist conservatives)
TKP: %0.22 (communists)
ODP: %0.15 (liberterian Socialists)supported ind.
LDP: %0.1 (liberal democrats - pro business)
EMEP : %0.008 (socialists) supported ind.
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23 Jul 2007 Mon 12:58 am |
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23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:08 am |
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I have always thought AKP to be a rather dangerous party for Turkey. As I have no political sense whatsoever, I wonder where I picked up this idea though.
Maybe it is just because both Erdogan and Gül have never been able to impress me with their speeches. And I am highly surprised that Güls wife has her head covered. In a country where 20 million people live below the poverty-standarts, there are more important things than a headscarf to discuss about. But for a country that praises Atatürk so high, the founder of secularism in Turkey, it surprises me that they vote for a party in which the leaders are Islamic and have head-covered wives that therefore cant even be invited everywhere.
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23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:08 am |
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Quoting mltm:
+1 |
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23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:17 am |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey: I get frustrated with all these politicians who say they are working in Turkeys best interests, and then squabble with each other (even within their own party) so the real issues i.e. unemployemnt, education, health system etc dont get discussed, and they spend all their time throwing mud at each other.
Really it is a case not of voting for the best, but the least worst.
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Sounds like every other democratic country. Most politicians say anything to get the vote but then, once elected, work only in their own interests.
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23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:29 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: I have always thought AKP to be a rather dangerous party for Turkey. As I have no political sense whatsoever, I wonder where I picked up this idea though.
Maybe it is just because both Erdogan and Gül have never been able to impress me with their speeches. And I am highly surprised that Güls wife has her head covered. In a country where 20 million people live below the poverty-standarts, there are more important things than a headscarf to discuss about. But for a country that praises Atatürk so high, the founder of secularism in Turkey, it surprises me that they vote for a party in which the leaders are Islamic and have head-covered wives that therefore cant even be invited everywhere. |
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23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:35 am |
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Quoting MrX67: i advice you to interrogate urself about whats the basic human rights for the criticize election results.. |
I think living in Holland I have quite a good understanding of basic human rights, thank you.
Secondly, I was not at all criticizing election results, as I stated I have no political sense at all. However, it is surprising for a country that praises the leader of anti-islam-governing, to again, vote for a religious party. They may say they have no agenda of 'islamizing' Turkey, but how can you NOT want to mix your FAITH, the basics upon which you build your ideas for the world, with your job/daily life, thus politics in this case? This seems a mystery to me.
I take it your an AKP voter 
I just wonder why Turkey, a country that needs to go forward, would vote for a conservative party. And Im genuinely interested and not judging or criticizing at all (And Im very sorry I felt the need to say this just to avoid misconfusion about my intentions).
Anyway as is said before, its no longer voting the best, but voting for the least worst.
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