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1.       mey0722
117 posts
 11 Oct 2007 Thu 10:29 pm

I apologize upfront if this is a repeat question.

I am curious about what types of jobs are available in Turkey for Americans who are educated.



2.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Oct 2007 Thu 11:00 pm

I'm also in a similar situation as you. I have been told by many Turkish people a secretary position most likely. I was hoping for the U.S. Embassy.

3.       portokal
2516 posts
 11 Oct 2007 Thu 11:18 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

I'm also in a similar situation as you. I have been told by many Turkish people a secretary position most likely. I was hoping for the U.S. Embassy.


secretary?
:-S why not assistant?! at least that.

4.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 11 Oct 2007 Thu 11:30 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

I'm also in a similar situation as you. I have been told by many Turkish people a secretary position most likely. I was hoping for the U.S. Embassy.



Hey Teas, maybe you can work at a resort and latch onto a rich foreigner. You already speak English

5.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 11 Oct 2007 Thu 11:38 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting teaschip1:

I'm also in a similar situation as you. I have been told by many Turkish people a secretary position most likely. I was hoping for the U.S. Embassy.



Hey Teas, maybe you can work at a resort and latch onto a rich foreigner. You already speak English


teas not handsome
who wants not handsome american at turkish resorts?

6.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 11 Oct 2007 Thu 11:44 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting teaschip1:

I'm also in a similar situation as you. I have been told by many Turkish people a secretary position most likely. I was hoping for the U.S. Embassy.



Hey Teas, maybe you can work at a resort and latch onto a rich foreigner. You already speak English


teas not handsome
who wants not handsome american at turkish resorts?



I was thinking that there must be men vacationing on these resorts too!! Why not put the shoe on the other foot!!

7.       mey0722
117 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 12:09 am

Not to be rude, but is anybody actually going to address my question with any amount of seriousness?

8.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 02:00 am

Quoting mey0722:

Not to be rude, but is anybody actually going to address my question with any amount of seriousness?



I think unless you are fluent in Turkish, and have some needed and very special skills not available in Turkey, you will have a very difficult time finding employment in Turkey.

There is already an unemployment issue there.

9.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 03:35 am

Quoting mey0722:

I apologize upfront if this is a repeat question.

I am curious about what types of jobs are available in Turkey for someone with a Masters Degree from a U.S. University. I'm female, if that makes a difference, in my 30's. I have taught English as a Second Language at a University in the U.S. in the past, so I know I can probably teach English in Turkey, but what other types of jobs could I possibly get? Currently I work in an office at a college. With these qualifications and NO knowledge of the Turkish language, whare there any other prospects for me other than teaching?I do plan to learn Turkish, but I won't be fluent anytime soon. Also, any idea of salaries?

MANY THANKS!!





I don't know how your writing is but you could also try your chance in journalism. There are a couple of English language newspapers (most notably Turkish Daily News.) Don't expect a fat salary though. After gaining some experience there you could look for better opportunities with international publications. You should keep in touch with other expatriates. This way you can be informed of employment opportunities much more efficiently than you would on your own.

Istanbul is not as expensive as the EU cities. Once you have learned how to do your shopping economically, you will will get by on a tight budget in this relatively cheap city. In Turkey vegetables and fruits are cheaper, electronics, liquors, energy, gasoline etc are more expensive. Cars are also a bit pricey. For example, I could have bought a Mercedes in Germany with the amount I paid on my Seat Toledo.

A very smart idea would be finding the job before coming to the country. There are lots of companies having operations in our country. If you communicate your plans about living in Turkey, something may possibly be arranged.

The US dollar has recently lost a lot of value. That's another point to consider. The rent for a mediocre apartment can be as high as 1000 YTL or about $850. If you require furniture as well it may go up significantly.

10.       Leelu
1746 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 04:41 am

Quoting alameda:

Quoting mey0722:

Not to be rude, but is anybody actually going to address my question with any amount of seriousness?



I think unless you are fluent in Turkish, and have some needed and very special skills not available in Turkey, you will have a very difficult time finding employment in Turkey.

There is already an unemployment issue there.



hmmm .. are systems analysts/network admins/EDI/WMS specialists in high demand? ..

11.       KeithL
1455 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 04:48 am

I think until you learn turkish, teaching english as a native speaker will be about your only opportunities. As it has been said, the job economy here is tight anyway. Good luck.

12.       Leelu
1746 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 05:05 am

Quoting KeithL:

I think until you learn turkish, teaching english as a native speaker will be about your only opportunities. As it has been said, the job economy here is tight anyway. Good luck.



I have special skills, so why would they not be required? do you mean to tell me that any one off the street can walk into a company and build a network with a firewall, dns servers etc? or that there are no EDI - Electronic Data Interfaces, WMS - Warehouse Management Systems in Turkey? that EVERYTHING is done the old fashioned way with a pen and piece of paper? .. I highly doubt it. As far as language goes, I learn EXTREMELY quickly ..

13.       KeithL
1455 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 05:47 am

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting KeithL:

I think until you learn turkish, teaching english as a native speaker will be about your only opportunities. As it has been said, the job economy here is tight anyway. Good luck.



I have special skills, so why would they not be required? do you mean to tell me that any one off the street can walk into a company and build a network with a firewall, dns servers etc? or that there are no EDI - Electronic Data Interfaces, WMS - Warehouse Management Systems in Turkey? that EVERYTHING is done the old fashioned way with a pen and piece of paper? .. I highly doubt it. As far as language goes, I learn EXTREMELY quickly ..



yes, those jobs are here, but don't you think you need to speak turkish? I'm not going to minimize your talents, but do you really think that those skills aren't being taught here???

14.       Leelu
1746 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 06:00 am

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting KeithL:

I think until you learn turkish, teaching english as a native speaker will be about your only opportunities. As it has been said, the job economy here is tight anyway. Good luck.



I have special skills, so why would they not be required? do you mean to tell me that any one off the street can walk into a company and build a network with a firewall, dns servers etc? or that there are no EDI - Electronic Data Interfaces, WMS - Warehouse Management Systems in Turkey? that EVERYTHING is done the old fashioned way with a pen and piece of paper? .. I highly doubt it. As far as language goes, I learn EXTREMELY quickly ..



yes, those jobs are here, but don't you think you need to speak turkish? I'm not going to minimize your talents, but do you really think that those skills aren't being taught here???



The language is a mere bump in the road - I learn languages very quickly, especially when I am around them 24/7 .. as far as the skills having 14 years experience in said industry usually speaks volumes. not to mention the accomplishments I achieved for my current employer with regards to RFID label implimentation to name one thing .. there are many others ..

if anyone is interested here is a little information about it ..
RFID Labels let Cingular Wireless send the right signals

15.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 07:20 am

i don't think anyone is minimising your skills or saying anything negative...so please don't be offended.

keith was merely pointing out that you may (most probably) need to speak turkish to be able to work in that specialised i.t. field.

sure you can pick up the language if you are immersed in it 24/7...without a doubt.

but still what if your future employer/clients spoke limited english? or what if the manuals you were given were all in turkish? do you know the turkish words for "wireless", "router", "dns servers", "firewall"...?

i think you would have a slight advantage over other candidates if you did speak turkish.

i know that if turkish people applied for i.t. jobs over here in australia, it is necessary for them to speak english.

16.       portokal
2516 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 10:08 am

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting KeithL:

I think until you learn turkish, teaching english as a native speaker will be about your only opportunities. As it has been said, the job economy here is tight anyway. Good luck.



I have special skills, so why would they not be required? do you mean to tell me that any one off the street can walk into a company and build a network with a firewall, dns servers etc? or that there are no EDI - Electronic Data Interfaces, WMS - Warehouse Management Systems in Turkey? that EVERYTHING is done the old fashioned way with a pen and piece of paper? .. I highly doubt it. As far as language goes, I learn EXTREMELY quickly ..



yes, those jobs are here, but don't you think you need to speak turkish? I'm not going to minimize your talents, but do you really think that those skills aren't being taught here???



The language is a mere bump in the road - I learn languages very quickly, especially when I am around them 24/7 .. as far as the skills having 14 years experience in said industry usually speaks volumes. not to mention the accomplishments I achieved for my current employer with regards to RFID label implimentation to name one thing .. there are many others ..

if anyone is interested here is a little information about it ..
RFID Labels let Cingular Wireless send the right signals


just wanted to let you know, i read the article.
WOW! .
i am shure that the knowledge of using and implementing Zebra technologies(&compliments to Zetna) is the perfect clue to find a great job!! lol
don't give up Leelu!! and don't give in on teaching!! i did it in school and during attending university for some extra-money. and, just like in every profession, it takes years to get experience and good proficiency! lol lol

17.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 11:12 am

Well, I worked as an IT Department manager for a 2500 employee firm for 6 years and am fluent in a couple of programming languages, I also set up firewalls, mail servers, DNS and you name it. Due to a crisis in the country many firms went bankrupt and their IT staffs were laid off. Despite all my knowledge and experience, I had to change my profession about three years ago and established a small company specializing in electronics device development instead. Ever since that day, I have been able to maintain the business at a break even state.
Was the IT sector as profitable as it used to be, I would not discard my own career in the first place.

Presently, I have the idea that working for yourself is thousand times better than working for somebody else if you can turn your ideas into a business.

18.       si++
3785 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 11:36 am

I am also an IT guy. I quit my previous company at the end of 2001 after the economical crisis in Turkey. Since then I work as self-employed. I am lucky and up to now I am getting some reasonable business. I am not always working but only when there are projects for me. I work 3-to-6 months each year but I earn more than the annual income I had when working for the company I quit.

Working for yourself is good. I work at home and I like it. I don't have to get up early. I can work anytime I want. Sometimes early in morning, sometimes late in the evening.

19.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 03:03 pm

Quoting mey0722:

Not to be rude, but is anybody actually going to address my question with any amount of seriousness?



I was being serious.

20.       mey0722
117 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 10:27 pm

Thanks for all of the great suggestions. You've all been helpful. I think teaching English is most logical, since I've done it at a university level, have my MA, a TEFL certificate. But I also liked the idea about journalism. I am not planning a move to Turkey at this time, but am trying to collect information in case that is a possibility.

Thanks again so much to everyone for your feedback.

21.       Allie925
5 posts
 13 Oct 2007 Sat 12:58 pm

Is it important to have a TEFL certificate in addition to a university degree if you want to teach English abroad?

22.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Oct 2007 Sat 01:05 pm

Quoting Allie925:

Is it important to have a TEFL certificate in addition to a university degree if you want to teach English abroad?



Search on this website for TEFL and you'll find many topics that may give you answers.

23.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 13 Oct 2007 Sat 01:23 pm

Quoting Allie925:

Is it important to have a TEFL certificate in addition to a university degree if you want to teach English abroad?


It depends on the country and your university degree.Experience in teaching also matters.If you are a qualified teacher of English you don't need to have a TEFL certificate ,if you are not it is necessary to have it in order to work in state schools or most of private language academies.Some academies abroad hire native speakers as teachers providing some training but as far as I know TEFL or any similar certificate is required.

24.       mey0722
117 posts
 05 Nov 2007 Mon 09:04 pm

Quote:









I don't know how your writing is but you could also try your chance in journalism. There are a couple of English language newspapers (most notably Turkish Daily News.) Don't expect a fat salary though. After gaining some experience there you could look for better opportunities with international publications. You should keep in touch with other expatriates. This way you can be informed of employment opportunities much more efficiently than you would on your own.

Istanbul is not as expensive as the EU cities. Once you have learned how to do your shopping economically, you will will get by on a tight budget in this relatively cheap city. In Turkey vegetables and fruits are cheaper, electronics, liquors, energy, gasoline etc are more expensive. Cars are also a bit pricey. For example, I could have bought a Mercedes in Germany with the amount I paid on my Seat Toledo.

A very smart idea would be finding the job before coming to the country. There are lots of companies having operations in our country. If you communicate your plans about living in Turkey, something may possibly be arranged.

The US dollar has recently lost a lot of value. That's another point to consider. The rent for a mediocre apartment can be as high as 1000 YTL or about $850. If you require furniture as well it may go up significantly.

25.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:29 pm

Jobs for Americans in Turkey?!?! Well....that is a rare and difficult question to answer. It simply NEVER happens. The normal routine is for your boyfriend to persuade you to get him a visa and then you all live happily ever after (for a couple of years) until he is resident

Femme....any suggestions for jobs for Americans in Turkey?

26.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:34 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:


Femme....any suggestions for jobs for Americans in Turkey?



no amerika amerika is bed

27.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:35 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:


Femme....any suggestions for jobs for Americans in Turkey?



no amerika amerika is bed



Belly/pole dancers maybe?

28.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:37 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:


Femme....any suggestions for jobs for Americans in Turkey?



no amerika amerika is bed



Belly/pole dancers maybe?


american belly dancers contra turkish belly dancers?

29.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:41 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:


Femme....any suggestions for jobs for Americans in Turkey?



no amerika amerika is bed



Belly/pole dancers maybe?


american belly dancers contra turkish belly dancers?


How about a housewife? I hear those jobs are plentiful in Turkey.

30.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:46 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

How about a housewife? I hear those jobs are plentiful in Turkey.



Nothing wrong with being a housewife...or a househusband for that matter. Its hard work and I have every respect for them

31.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:48 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Elisabeth:

How about a housewife? I hear those jobs are plentiful in Turkey.



Nothing wrong with being a housewife...or a househusband for that matter. Its hard work and I have every respect for them


with no pay

32.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:49 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Elisabeth:

How about a housewife? I hear those jobs are plentiful in Turkey.



Nothing wrong with being a housewife...or a househusband for that matter. Its hard work and I have every respect for them



Then all you need to do is find a Dudu...which apparently is not hard to do.

33.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:50 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Then all you need to do is find a Dudu...which apparently is not hard to do.



I didn't say i want to BE one! But...when I have children I would consider one of us giving up work while they are very young. Most of my friends choose the partner who earns the least - often the husband. And...they do a great job (I can't imagine it in turkey though !!!!)

34.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:54 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Then all you need to do is find a Dudu...which apparently is not hard to do.



I didn't say i want to BE one! But...when I have children I would consider one of us giving up work while they are very young. Most of my friends choose the partner who earns the least - often the husband. And...they do a great job (I can't imagine it in turkey though !!!!)



Actually, (are you sitting), I have discussed this with my husband and after some thought, he said he wouldn't mind staying home with children. I have known some men who have done this and you are right, they do a great job.

35.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:56 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Actually, (are you sitting), I have discussed this with my husband and after some thought, he said he wouldn't mind staying home with children. I have known some men who have done this and you are right, they do a great job.



Yes but...I think your husband, although Turkish, is not a dudu right?

36.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 10:58 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Actually, (are you sitting), I have discussed this with my husband and after some thought, he said he wouldn't mind staying home with children. I have known some men who have done this and you are right, they do a great job.



Yes but...I think your husband, although Turkish, is not a dudu right?



hehehe....Although he displays some Duduesque behaviors, No, he is not a Dudu. He is the next step in evolution for Turkish men!!

37.       mey0722
117 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 11:46 pm

Yes, DUDU DUDU DUDU DUDU DUDU.. do NOT for the life of you forget to say the word DUDU in this thread. That would be terrible. lolOlol I mean, the thread is about Americans finding jobs...that is entirely related to Dudu, so I'm soooooooo glad you brought it up AGAIN. Thank God because I could not imagine one entire thread without the word DUDU. Thank you soooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

38.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 11:49 pm

Quoting mey0722:

Yes, DUDU DUDU DUDU DUDU DUDU.. do NOT for the life of you forget to say the word DUDU in this thread. That would be terrible. lolOlol I mean, the thread is about Americans finding jobs...that is entirely related to Dudu, so I'm soooooooo glad you brought it up AGAIN. Thank God because I could not imagine one entire thread without the word DUDU. Thank you soooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol


please do not DUDU so loud, my neighbours are asleep now!

39.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Nov 2007 Tue 11:58 pm

Quoting mey0722:

I mean, the thread is about Americans finding jobs...



You SURE you are not Polyanna?

40.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 12:07 am

Quoting mey0722:

Yes, DUDU DUDU DUDU DUDU DUDU.. do NOT for the life of you forget to say the word DUDU in this thread. That would be terrible. lolOlol I mean, the thread is about Americans finding jobs...that is entirely related to Dudu, so I'm soooooooo glad you brought it up AGAIN. Thank God because I could not imagine one entire thread without the word DUDU. Thank you soooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol



I think someone is having a bit of a meltdown.

41.       Aslan
1070 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 12:08 am

...could it be ADHD?

42.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 12:09 am

Quoting Aslan:

...could it be ADHD?



Aslannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! Welcome back canimmmmmmmmm

Now, don't be a stranger, we need you for our new Dudu Business

43.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 12:10 am

Quoting Aslan:

...could it be ADHD?



Would it be medical or cultural ADHD?

44.       Aslan
1070 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 12:13 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Aslan:

...could it be ADHD?



Aslannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! Welcome back canimmmmmmmmm

Now, don't be a stranger, we need you for our new Dudu Business







...there is no business like dudu business!!!

45.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 12:23 am

Quoting Aslan:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Aslan:

...could it be ADHD?



Aslannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! Welcome back canimmmmmmmmm

Now, don't be a stranger, we need you for our new Dudu Business







...there is no business like dudu business!!!



www.Ilovedudus.com

46.       mey0722
117 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 12:33 am

No meltdown, Elisabeth...just amazed at the number of threads where you've done this...and thought I would make a joke about it in response. I understand it's a funny topic, Dudu. I really do. Perhaps start a new thread to vent this need to talk about it all the time as opposed to mentioning it in other threads with actual topics unrelated. I'm not in a bad mood, just a little frustrated at how many times it has happened. Just sharing my opinion. Judging by my Inbox, I'm not alone in my thoughts. When you do stay on topic, I find your posts to be very informative, and your conversation to be among the best here. I really do hope you will continue to respond to my threads because I've learned a lot from you.

47.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 12:58 am

Quoting mey0722:

No meltdown, Elisabeth...just amazed at the number of threads where you've done this...and thought I would make a joke about it in response. I understand it's a funny topic, Dudu. I really do. Perhaps start a new thread to vent this need to talk about it all the time as opposed to mentioning it in other threads with actual topics unrelated. I'm not in a bad mood, just a little frustrated at how many times it has happened. Just sharing my opinion. Judging by my Inbox, I'm not alone in my thoughts. When you do stay on topic, I find your posts to be very informative, and your conversation to be among the best here. I really do hope you will continue to respond to my threads because I've learned a lot from you.



OMG. Do you always have to be so sanctimonious? Well, like it or not, take a look at 90% of the threads here and, directly or indirectly, they are about your Turkish boyfriends - how to travel there, where to stay with him, how to work so you can be with him, how to get him a visa, how to translate messages from him, how to behave towards his mother and father....the list is endless.

So, what is your objection? We are all talking about the same subject surely?

Stop being headmistress around here ..its so dull...

48.       mey0722
117 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:03 am

Last time I loooked the site was titled "Turkish Class." My apologies for my misunderstanding of its function. I was being respectful and kind, not sanctimonious. It's unfortunate you took it that way. My apologies if it came across that way as well. All I wanted to do was kindly ask people, in a joking way, to stop saying dudu in every single message. It's rude. It appears I am the problem, I don't fit in here, so my apologies again.

49.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:04 am

Quoting mey0722:

Last time I loooked the site was titled "Turkish Class."



Meaning? As I already said, 90% of threads here are directly or indirectly about Turkish boyfriends. Like it or not.

50.       mey0722
117 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:13 am

I'd say "not." Thanks for letting me know. I am apparantly unwelcomed as well as on the wrong site.

51.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:15 am

Quoting mey0722:

I'd say "not." Thanks for letting me know. I am apparantly unwelcomed as well as on the wrong site.



OMG! Dont be such a drama queen! I will cry soon....

52.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:19 am

Quoting mey0722:

Last time I loooked the site was titled "Turkish Class." My apologies for my misunderstanding of its function. I was being respectful and kind, not sanctimonious. It's unfortunate you took it that way. My apologies if it came across that way as well. All I wanted to do was kindly ask people, in a joking way, to stop saying dudu in every single message. It's rude. It appears I am the problem, I don't fit in here, so my apologies again.



Try not to take it to heart.. Were all misfits here.

53.       mey0722
117 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:22 am

It seems I can do nothing right. I am either asking stupid questions, or being a drama queen, or sanctimoniuos. No matter how I reply, I am attacked or criticized and I only came here to ask some questions about Turkey. What was I thinking?

Thanks to those of you who were helpful and I wish you all the very best in your travels. Turkey seems like an amazing place and I look forward to my visit.

54.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:35 am

So because of a few members your going to leave? I'm disappointed in you, you are American right and yes I understand your human. You felt the need to express your opinion on dudus and you didn't get the response you would have liked. So you just quit, like that.. You will find in this class that opinions are expressed freely. You are use to Freedom of Speech, right? You used your freedom of speech to express your dislike, well go on and forget the comments and continue to proceed with why you came to this site. Hell I have no conscious because I like diamonds..Do you see me going anywhere.

55.       Turk120807
50 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:40 am

Your response is way more reprehensible. Way to go! I believe the person was American and British from her posts. Maybe be nice instead being so ANGRY all the time!

56.       Turk120807
50 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:41 am

by the way, why are you posting to someone who has left anyway? She's not going to read it! lolOL

57.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:43 am

children,children,children......

58.       Turk120807
50 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:46 am

Freedom of speech to this person seems to involve some small spot of respect when speaking up..that's her mistake.

59.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:46 am

Quoting Turk120807:

Your response is way more reprehensible. Way to go! I believe the person was American and British from her posts. Maybe be nice instead being so ANGRY all the time!



Hey I just call it as I see it and sorry it wasn't up to your expectations. I wasn't harsh, just truthful. Maybe you need to reasess who is ANGRY here, before you speak.

60.       Turk120807
50 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:47 am

Yes, it's allllllll about meeeeeeeeeeeee. Accountability is a funny word.

61.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 01:49 am

Quoting Turk120807:

Yes, it's allllllll about meeeeeeeeeeeee. Accountability is a funny word.



It appears so...

62.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:23 am

What is this dudu thing? I couldn't find out the where all this bitterness started.

Under the circumstances, I am thinking of asking the admin to open a flaming section where people could bash one another without ever worrying about being misunderstood. There are examples of this elsewhere. I remember back in the early 90's, at a time when we were spending a fortune on our dial up connections to local BBS's, we could completely solve this problem by arranging those flaming corners. Being hardly ever censored or noticed by anyone, aggressors could actually curse the other party and be responded to similarly. Because messages posted there would not count as real messages you would continue to communicate elsewhere in the forum normally. Violation of that simple rule however, would result in the suspension of your account which in some cases would have other graver consequences like being excommunicated from the BBS community as the service turned on the pocket money of the BBS owners who were the real Gods of the glorious BBS age.





63.       KeithL
1455 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 03:44 pm

Quoting vineyards:

What is this dudu thing? I couldn't find out the where all this bitterness started.

Under the circumstances, I am thinking of asking the admin to open a flaming section where people could bash one another without ever worrying about being misunderstood. There are examples of this elsewhere. I remember back in the early 90's, at a time when we were spending a fortune on our dial up connections to local BBS's, we could completely solve this problem by arranging those flaming corners. Being hardly ever censored or noticed by anyone, aggressors could actually curse the other party and be responded to similarly. Because messages posted there would not count as real messages you would continue to communicate elsewhere in the forum normally. Violation of that simple rule however, would result in the suspension of your account which in some cases would have other graver consequences like being excommunicated from the BBS community as the service turned on the pocket money of the BBS owners who were the real Gods of the glorious BBS age.




+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...

64.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 04:57 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting vineyards:

What is this dudu thing? I couldn't find out the where all this bitterness started.

Under the circumstances, I am thinking of asking the admin to open a flaming section where people could bash one another without ever worrying about being misunderstood. There are examples of this elsewhere. I remember back in the early 90's, at a time when we were spending a fortune on our dial up connections to local BBS's, we could completely solve this problem by arranging those flaming corners. Being hardly ever censored or noticed by anyone, aggressors could actually curse the other party and be responded to similarly. Because messages posted there would not count as real messages you would continue to communicate elsewhere in the forum normally. Violation of that simple rule however, would result in the suspension of your account which in some cases would have other graver consequences like being excommunicated from the BBS community as the service turned on the pocket money of the BBS owners who were the real Gods of the glorious BBS age.




+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...



And without humor!! (whom the cap fits.....)

65.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 05:01 pm

Quoting KeithL:

This site has become intolerable lately...


Dear Keith, if you notice, people have always been complaining that "the site has become intolerable lately". That's the nature of people of various temperaments mingling together and whether the outcome will fit your needs...

66.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 05:04 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting KeithL:

This site has become intolerable lately...


Dear Keith, if you notice, people have always been complaining that "the site has become intolerable lately". That's the nature of people of various temperaments mingling together and whether the outcome will fit your needs...





Well said. I have gotten a lot of laughs lately and have enjoyed it very much actually.

67.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 05:18 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Well said. I have gotten a lot of laughs lately and have enjoyed it very much actually.


And I very much enjoyed reading your posts Elizabeth!

68.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 05:27 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Well said. I have gotten a lot of laughs lately and have enjoyed it very much actually.



Keep up the good work Elisabeth!

69.       portokal
2516 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 05:29 pm

Quoting KeithL:



+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...



Ofkors it has! Furthermore, it is filled with Bossy Insecure Temptuous Catty Highminded Yelling women...

Cheers.

70.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 06:48 pm

Quoting portokal:

Quoting KeithL:



+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...



Ofkors it has! Furthermore, it is filled with Bossy Insecure Temptuous Catty Highminded Yelling women...

Cheers.



At this site?

71.       portokal
2516 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 06:52 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting KeithL:



+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...



Ofkors it has! Furthermore, it is filled with Bossy Insecure Temptuous Catty Highminded Yelling women...

Cheers.



At this site?



Yup! And, i learned a nice trick: read the capital letters only....

72.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 06:55 pm

Quoting portokal:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting KeithL:



+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...



Ofkors it has! Furthermore, it is filled with Bossy Insecure Temptuous Catty Highminded Yelling women...

Cheers.



At this site?



Yup! And, i learned a nice trick: read the capital letters only....



That is good..maybe sometimes we are. lol

73.       portokal
2516 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 06:57 pm

Quoting portokal:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting KeithL:



+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...



Ofkors it has! Furthermore, it is filled with Bossy Insecure Temptuous Catty Highminded Yelling women...

Cheers.



At this site?



Yup! And, i learned a nice trick: read the capital letters only....



So while reading about how intolerant this site becamed, it reminded me of this another remark of Keith's. Fits in perfectly!!

74.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 07:00 pm

Quoting portokal:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting KeithL:



+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...



Ofkors it has! Furthermore, it is filled with Bossy Insecure Temptuous Catty Highminded Yelling women...

Cheers.



At this site?



Yup! And, i learned a nice trick: read the capital letters only....



You was a bit slow working that one out? How it eluded so many.

75.       portokal
2516 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 07:05 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting KeithL:



+1000 This site has become intolerable lately...



Ofkors it has! Furthermore, it is filled with Bossy Insecure Temptuous Catty Highminded Yelling women...

Cheers.



At this site?



Yup! And, i learned a nice trick: read the capital letters only....



You was a bit slow working that one out? How it eluded so many.



Well... what eludes some, may crash others

76.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 07 Nov 2007 Wed 07:10 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting KeithL:

This site has become intolerable lately...


Dear Keith, if you notice, people have always been complaining that "the site has become intolerable lately". That's the nature of people of various temperaments mingling together and whether the outcome will fit your needs...



Hehehe this is so true! In the few years I have been here people have always complained that the site is "not what it used to be".

I still dont really understand why people get so upset when threads are "spoiled". Does ANYONE EVER use previous threads for reference? NO! If they did we would not get the same old topics appearing again and again.

Personally, I think its been great fun here lately! Its quite easy to avoid the fun if you want to seriously practice Turkish. I have rarely seen "chat" style posts in the Language forum.

GET REAL

77.       Jersey
2 posts
 29 Nov 2007 Thu 09:50 pm

I am new to this site. What IS Dudu anyway? What does it mean? I know Tarkan had a CD, but beyond that, I have no clue.

78.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 29 Nov 2007 Thu 09:53 pm

Quoting Jersey:

I am new to this site. What IS Dudu anyway? What does it mean? I know Tarkan had a CD, but beyond that, I have no clue.



My favourite subject
A "dudu" is a name we have given to the hundreds/thousands of Turkish resort workers who write such beautiful "askimsevgilimcanimbenim" messages to the girls they meet on holiday and then start to reveal their true intentions (money/visa/cellphone/laptop).

We have seen many many many of them here

79.       portokal
2516 posts
 29 Nov 2007 Thu 09:57 pm

Quoting Jersey:

I am new to this site. What IS Dudu anyway? What does it mean? I know Tarkan had a CD, but beyond that, I have no clue.



dudu? a very-very long story ))))

80.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 29 Nov 2007 Thu 09:59 pm

You are well-educated and cultured , but at first you should learn Turkish language???
And this Site is a Turkish Language Class...

81.       portokal
2516 posts
 29 Nov 2007 Thu 10:03 pm


Quoting yilgun-7:

You are well-educated and cultured , but at first you should learn Turkish language???

82.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 29 Nov 2007 Thu 10:06 pm

Quoting portokal:


Quoting yilgun-7:

You are well-educated and cultured , but at first you should learn Turkish language???



SHHHHHH!! Don't tell yilgun that we actually have fun here, joke around, talk about forbidden subjects and speak forbidden words!!

83.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 30 Nov 2007 Fri 12:44 am

Ok = Tamam

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