Hello everyone. I am moving to maramris on the 26th april and just wondered if anyone could give me any advice? ive booked up a months accomadtion whilest i find somewhere to live but i have been told that you can end up paying over the odds for an apartment? my friend who is coming with me is a hairdresser so she wont really have a problem in finding work. we are both currently learning turkish but as my job here is an office manager doubtfull my turkish will me good enough to work in an offcie over there. so i was thinking perhaps bar work? id love to hear from anyone that has any tips or suggestions or has moved to marmaris!

cok tesskur ederim x

Now that I think of it - I am not sure I have seen any female bar tenders in Turkey. Weird..I never thought of it before.

Plenty of female bartenders in Istanbul, especially in Taksim. My friend selda has been a bartender at the Hom Store in Akmerkiz (Levent) for over 10 years.

Just goes to show you where my mind is at...Woman? There are women in Turkey?

But just FYI - I think that employment for foreigners would be easier in a larger city.

not that i want to work in a bar but perhaps the only job avalaible?? does anyone know about renting apartments etc and what kindve money i wud expected to earn?

As Turkey is not an EU country, I would assume you require a work permit and need to apply for a residential visa?

ye i get the same visa as everyone entering turkey from the u.k - the 3 month just have 2 go bk to england or greece to renew and im not so sure about work permits

This link will give you information about work permits. Generally, you need to have a job in turkey before you travel there and need to apply for a permit BEFORE you arrive.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=110411

thank you thats really helpful or shud i say cok tesskir ederim! lol x

hmmmm read the website really not clear still. if it is corect it will cost over 200 pounds!! what wud happen if i just didnt get one?

"While technically, yes, it is possible to talk your way into a job at a local bar or restaurant, it is becoming very rare, because the establishments do not want to risk being fined for hiring somebody illegally. Even if they did pay you under the table for "helping", you would have absolutely no rights as an employee, and no legal back up in the event in the event of an accident, abuse or being unable to collect wages. The other risk is that the restaurant or bar next door reports you (and the friends who employed you) to the labor authorities. (This is what usually happens.) The authorities do seek out illegal employment and they are quite aware of what is going on all around town.

Also, remember that there are many unemployed Turks who are willing to take jobs for little pay, and just as in the UK, most jobs will first go to the nationals of the country. Just as in the UK, people don't always look kindly on those who have come into the country to take jobs from local people, so you also risk facing quite a bit of resentment from those around you who view you as an illegal outsider.

Therefore I would strongly advise not to rely on casual work. You can live in Bodrum fairly cheaply if you are careful, and it would be so much easier to simply bring out a bit extra cash so that you could enjoy your summer season without needing local income. You could still hang out with your friends in their shops, bars and restaurants without the risk.

The legal way to work is for your employer to take out a work permit for you. This is very cumbersome, extremely expensive, and the employer must prove that a Turkish national could not do the same job. Please take a look at the website www.mymerhaba.com which has all the technical details involved.

On the other hand, if you can establish employment as a transfer rep (prior to arriving), that is completely legitimate and an excellent experience. The other thing you could do is come with a TOEFL license and legally teach English."

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Turkey-207/Work-permits.htm

Just to add my personal thoughts - living in a foreign holiday resort is often hell. You have a great holiday and think you would like to live there...but the reality is very different.

For a start, you will either have to pay a great deal of money for accommodation, or live in a very unsafe, small apartment in poor condition. Why would anyone rent out a nice apartment in a holiday resort for less than they could get from tourists?

Secondly, do you have any conception of the hard work involved in barwork or waiting in Turkey? Resort workers work very very long hours for little pay. You would not have much time for socialising.

I would seriously re-think your decision and just enjoy holiday resorts (in any country) for a few weeks in the year

Sorry, but just read your other posts and I have to say...if you are going to live in Turkey because of this boy you met then you are REALLY making a big mistake .

He would much prefer you to get him into the UK it seems. If you believe the story about his "ex" girlfriend then you must also believe in Father Christmas!

AEnigma - The Voice of Doom

lol thanks for all your advice! no its nothing to do with him for sure he wont even be there. hes gone in the army for two years. ive been turkey many times b4 that anyway lol! everyone has really put me off now i didnt even realise about the visas. yes i do understand the long hours involved i just think it wud be a good experience! if i dont like it im taking enuff money wit me just to go home again lol so nothin really can go wrong. if it fails at least i can say ive tried? xx

Well good luck (and well done for holding your temper at my rather rude post!)

thanks for your help your message didnt annoy me i know ur only trying to help!! ru turkish by the way lol

thats not too bad considering i work 10 hours day here lol! and 600 ytl a month isnt all that bad. one more question for anyone, if i were to study turkish at a language school - would the vias still be required then?