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07 Nov 2007 Wed 07:46 pm |
Paragraph 301 of the Turkish criminal law will change. The article forbids to insult Turkey, the flag and talk about the Armenian genocide (amongst other subjects). E.g. Orhan Pamuk and Hrant Dink were prosecuted because of this paragraph. According to Mehmet Ali Sahin, minister of Justice, his department will give several options for changing to the Turkish Parliament next week.
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 07:50 pm |
Well about time too (providing they abolish this stupid law!).
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:00 pm |
They should also remove that stupid scarf ban .
Anyway this is a good start.
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:00 pm |
Quoting Karine: They should also remove that stupid scarf ban .
Anyway this is a good start. |
Wasn't it removed after the last election?
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:04 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Karine: They should also remove that stupid scarf ban .
Anyway this is a good start. |
Wasn't it removed after the last election? |
lol
They are far from this... But I hope one day not only man will have freedom of religion in Turkey but also woman...
Unfortunately Turkey is still archaic on that point...
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:18 pm |
Quoting Karine:
Unfortunately Turkey is still archaic on that point... |
the scarf is archaic not turkey !
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:20 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Karine:
Unfortunately Turkey is still archaic on that point... |
the scarf is archaic not turkey ! |
All around the world the girls with scarf can go to school... If it is not archaic how do you call it??? Modern??? hahah
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:22 pm |
Freedom is missing in Turkey... You can't say the things you want you can wear what you want...
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:26 pm |
lol
Is this something obligatory??? haha No I do not have boyfriend...
What is controversial?
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:26 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Karine:
Unfortunately Turkey is still archaic on that point... |
the scarf is archaic not turkey ! |
Actually both are
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:27 pm |
Quoting Karine: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Karine:
Unfortunately Turkey is still archaic on that point... |
the scarf is archaic not turkey ! |
All around the world the girls with scarf can go to school... If it is not archaic how do you call it??? Modern??? hahah
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dear, learn about religions and their history first, before writing about the freedom and rights!
thank you
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:29 pm |
Quoting Karine: Is this something obligatory??? haha No I do not have boyfriend...
What is controversial? |
What is controversial????!!
(1) You are criticising Turkey - this is forbidden because Turkey has no faults. It is a near-prefect society and the only negative things about Turkey are malicious rumours or were caused by the West.
(2) If you do not have Turkish boyfriend than you are almost unique here
(3) Unfortunately your single status will not last long as spammers will now move to you like moths to a flame
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:31 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Karine: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Karine:
Unfortunately Turkey is still archaic on that point... |
the scarf is archaic not turkey ! |
All around the world the girls with scarf can go to school... If it is not archaic how do you call it??? Modern??? hahah
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dear, learn about religions and their history first, before writing about the freedom and rights! |
I do not know what is your point about the subject...Do not worry about my knowledge... What do you think I should be aware of??? lol Are you telling to the whole world that christians, jews and muslims are archaic??? if yes you just got million of enemies.. good luck
thank you
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:35 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Karine: Is this something obligatory??? haha No I do not have boyfriend...
What is controversial? |
What is controversial????!!
(1) You are criticising Turkey - this is forbidden because Turkey has no faults. It is a near-prefect society and the only negative things about Turkey are malicious rumours or were caused by the West.
(2) If you do not have Turkish boyfriend than you are almost unique here
(3) Unfortunately your single status will not last long as spammers will now move to you like moths to a flame |
I do not belive that this is a near-perfect society... if not why they're so much dudu??? who want to go out of this perfect society?
They already started to burn my message box!haha thank you...
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:35 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: (2) If you do not have Turkish boyfriend than you are almost unique here
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Almost unique, Aenigma, I don't have one too! (And I don't want one as well....!)
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:36 pm |
Quoting Karine:
I do not know what is your point about the subject...Do not worry about my knowledge... What do you think I should be aware of??? lol Are you telling to the whole world that christians, jews and muslims are archaic??? if yes you just got million of enemies.. good luck
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:37 pm |
Quote: Quoting femme_fatal: if yes you just got million of enemies.. good luck
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Sadly you always make enemies when you speak the truth. Hence my overwhelming popularity on TC.......
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:38 pm |
Quote: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting femme_fatal: if yes you just got million of enemies.. good luck
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Sadly you always make enemies when you speak the truth. Hence my overwhelming popularity on TC....... |
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:41 pm |
Quote: Quoting Trudy: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting femme_fatal: if yes you just got million of enemies.. good luck
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Sadly you always make enemies when you speak the truth. Hence my overwhelming popularity on TC....... |
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I strongly believe that we can say everything we want but there is a way to talk... With respect. I do not think people get enemies because they tell the truth.
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:42 pm |
Quote: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting femme_fatal: if yes you just got million of enemies.. good luck
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Sadly you always make enemies when you speak the truth. Hence my overwhelming popularity on TC....... |
aka
infamous, tc queen, fascist, bitch, moron...
have i missed anything?
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:42 pm |
Quoting Karine: I strongly believe that we can say everything we want but there is a way to talk... With respect. I do not think people get enemies because they tell the truth. |
Stay on TC for a few more weeks then tell me if you feel the same
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:44 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal:
infamous, tc queen, fascist, bitch, moron...
have i missed anything? |
"Slut, ignorant westerner......" offffffffff its so annoying, I know there are more but I just can't recall them all...
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:45 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Karine: I strongly believe that we can say everything we want but there is a way to talk... With respect. I do not think people get enemies because they tell the truth. |
Stay on TC for a few more weeks then tell me if you feel the same |
haha I don't know what you're talking about but I just want to tell you same if people are against you, same if the world was against you if you really believe in something that you know is true than don;t care about the others and TELL ITTTTTTTT : ))))))
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:47 pm |
Quoting Karine: if you really believe in something that you know is true than don;t care about the others and TELL ITTTTTTTT : ))))))
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Yes you are so right. I agree that I am sometimes to shy to speak what I really feel and know to be true
I think Femme has the same problem .
We will SPEAK UP in future
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:49 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Karine: if you really believe in something that you know is true than don;t care about the others and TELL ITTTTTTTT : ))))))
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Yes you are so right. I agree that I am sometimes to shy to speak what I really feel and know to be true
I think Femme has the same problem .
We will SPEAK UP in future |
: )))))))
Good then... But I'm sorry in advance if I hurt any of you because this is what I am doing all the time... so excuse me in advance... : )
resentfulness is not good guysssss
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:49 pm |
yeah, i know im too soft, too nice
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:51 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal:
yeah, i know im too soft, too nice |
Yeah
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:54 pm |
Quoting Karine: But I'm sorry in advance if I hurt any of you because this is what I am doing all the time... so excuse me in advance... : ) |
No need to apologise. You made me realise that I have been too sensitive to other's feelings here. I am such a softie really. I wish I could learn to JUST SPEAK MY MIND grrrrrrrr
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:57 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Karine: But I'm sorry in advance if I hurt any of you because this is what I am doing all the time... so excuse me in advance... : ) |
No need to apologise. You made me realise that I have been too sensitive to other's feelings here. I am such a softie really. I wish I could learn to JUST SPEAK MY MIND grrrrrrrr |
Just do it. But the only thing which I know is very difficult is to keep bad words... lol
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:59 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Karine: But I'm sorry in advance if I hurt any of you because this is what I am doing all the time... so excuse me in advance... : ) |
No need to apologise. You made me realise that I have been too sensitive to other's feelings here. I am such a softie really. I wish I could learn to JUST SPEAK MY MIND grrrrrrrr |
sorry, but
the west is west, is always too soft! bends with any immigration wave
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 09:08 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: yeah, i know im too soft, too nice |
You are really the softest TC member I know, FF.
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 09:12 pm |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting femme_fatal: yeah, i know im too soft, too nice |
You are really the softest TC member I know, FF. |
She is like cotton...all fluffy and soft. And I really wish AEnigma would speak up once in a while. She is so shy and quiet.
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 09:13 pm |
Quoting Elisabeth: And I really wish AEnigma would speak up once in a while. She is so shy and quiet. |
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 09:31 pm |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting femme_fatal: yeah, i know im too soft, too nice |
You are really the softest TC member I know, FF. |
thank you canim
and you are
btw, hope you didnt do any harm to piramides, and the camels were still safe while you rode them ?
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 09:49 pm |
The piramides are still there I hope and the camels.... well the camels, can anyone send an animal-psychiatrist to Egypt please?
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 10:02 pm |
it is so funny when i read AEnigma and femme s' posts to karine, as a new person in a gang and you want her to well-trained and knows the laws of the game
ı saw that ın some films
so karine obey your teachers to be one of the community
sorry i forgot Trudy and Elisabeth to be Quartet top of TC
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 06:59 am |
Gov’t plans to change, not abolish, 301
The government, under pressure from the European Union to change or abolish Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code (TCK), is planning to introduce amendments to the text of the law while preserving it, but opposition parties are reluctant to let planned amendments go ahead.
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Government sources said five amendment proposals, drafted in cooperation with criminal law experts from several universities, were being considered. One common element in the five texts is that they replace the term “Turkishness†in Article 301 with “Turkish nation†and the term “Republic†with “the State of the Republic of Turkey.†This is likely to answer criticism that the terms used in the law are too vague, resulting in court cases for non-violent expressions of opinion.
The proposals also envisage that opening a court case on the basis of Article 301 depend on prior permission, although it is not clear yet who should be authorized to give such permission. One alternative requires authorization from the president, while another calls for the current system to continue, meaning that prosecutors will be free to bring public cases if they secure permission from the Justice Ministry.
The government, on the other hand, has not taken into consideration a different text proposed by several nongovernmental organizations in early 2007, arguing that it is not sufficiently innovative. In the text proposed by the NGOs, the upper limit of a sentence for “insulting Turkishness†had been lowered from three to two years and the sentence reading “In cases where denigration of Turkishness is committed by a Turkish citizen in another country, the punishment shall be increased by one-third†had been deleted. The text had proposed that the same punishment will be applicable irrespective of whether the offense is committed in Turkey or outside of Turkey and that the word “Turkishness†should be construed as “a person who is connected to the Republic of Turkey through the bond of citizenship.â€
Gov’t plans to change, not abolish, 301
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