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1.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 06:56 pm

The Turkish branch of Amnesty International is trying to set up a safe-house style of womens shelter in Beşiktaş:

Today's Zaman article

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 07:18 pm

I am honestly amazed by the large number of readers ZAMAN has, among our members here.

I never read ZAMAN. Am I missing something?

3.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 07:28 pm

4.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 07:56 pm

I love Amnesty International...

Apart from trying to get pardons for all kinds of criminals, they also support LGBT Movement throughout the world. Crime and LGBT should be free and encouraged, no?

They remind me of Frankists, in history !

5.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 07:58 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

I love Amnesty International...

Apart from trying to get pardons for all kinds of criminals, they also support LGBT Movement throughout the world. Crime and LGBT should be free and encouraged, no?

They remind me of Frankists, in history !


are we talking about amnesty international?
you seem to be bothered about the issue of women rights?
do you have a problem with it?

6.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 07:58 pm

Women's shelters have been proved to save thousands of women (and children's) lives. For some women, it is their only hope, as they live in fear of their abusive husbands. It is very good news that Amnesty International are doing this.

7.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 08:02 pm

Anybody in mischief, should have a respectable face too....
Makes their lives easier...

Eskimo Proverb

8.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 08:02 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

I love Amnesty International...

Apart from trying to get pardons for all kinds of criminals, they also support LGBT Movement throughout the world. Crime and LGBT should be free and encouraged, no?

They remind me of Frankists, in history !



What a strange way of thinking.... :-S

9.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 08:03 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Anybody in mischief, should have a respectable face too....
Makes their lives easier...

Eskimo Proverb



Meaning (in this context? )

10.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 08:03 pm

Are you calling my Frankists, strange?

11.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 08:05 pm

Actually Alpha, I am far more interested in your view on a Women's Refuge opening in Besiktas.

I notice you have made no comment on it so far.

12.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 08:41 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Actually Alpha, I am far more interested in your view on a Women's Refuge opening in Besiktas.

I notice you have made no comment on it so far.


you will not hear them condemmning this barbarian act. most of them if not all of them are silent.
but they are suddenly alive when its about muslim women who lost their virginity, ready to curse them in the name of allah.
or they gain their tongues back when i criticise anything related islam.

13.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 09:19 pm

I found the article fascinating, not just because I agree with the topic of women's shelters (Mor Çatı has been doing a wonderful work here formany many years) but also:

a) It is in Todays Zaman - which as Alpha F points out is a newspaper published by a more religious media group

and

b) some fascianting quotes e.g.:

In just three hours, around 300 signatures were collected. ..Several women expressed their surprise at seeing male activists engaged in the topic. “It is very nice that men also show their support for the issue,” said Zeynep, 56.

“It is mostly older women who are aware of the problem,” says AI-Turkey member Özlem Çolak (24), adding that headscarved women in particular are very open to discussing the situation. “They always listen and often sign,” she said. “The younger women, though, often wave it off and do not take the issue seriously.”

Interestingly, some women refused to sign but accepted a gift the activists had prepared: a small hand mirror on which the phone number of a women’s helpline, Mor Çatı, was written.

14.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 09:21 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Actually Alpha, I am far more interested in your view on a Women's Refuge opening in Besiktas.

I notice you have made no comment on it so far.


Maybe he's angry that his wife might leave him now?

15.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 09:30 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Actually Alpha, I am far more interested in your view on a Women's Refuge opening in Besiktas.

I notice you have made no comment on it so far.


Maybe he's angry that his wife might leave him now?


no, he went out to scrub off the mor cati helpline numbers on all those pocket mirrors.

16.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 09:36 pm

I don't know about poor AlphaF's wife, but I CERTAINLY need a refuge from him from time to time

17.       portokal
2516 posts
 25 Nov 2007 Sun 10:02 pm

an appeal started in 2004:


Worldwide Appeal
TURKEY: Women need shelters

Women in Istanbul call for shelters
Women in protest in Istanbul that they need "shelters not graves" © Private

Important

Please read our letter writing guide before writing to any of the addresses below.
Reminder

AI members should not send appeals to the authorities of their own countries.

Appeal status: Active
Appeal started: July 2004

“Everyone sends women who have experienced violence to us. Everyone. The government, the police, everyone. We don’t have the facilities to meet the demand.”
A worker at a non-governmental organization (NGO) in Turkey speaking to AI

At least a third of all women in Turkey are estimated to experience physical violence within their families. Women should not face this violence unsupported. The state has a duty to protect women from violence committed not only by agents of the state but also by private individuals and groups.

The first step in the protection of women should be the Family Protection Law, which would distance perpetrators and allow women to stay in their own homes. However, it is recognized that in some emergency situations this is insufficient to protect women, and for such situations shelters are needed.

It is estimated that there are only 14 shelters and 19 community-based services to support women experiencing violence at home for a population of 70 million. Two independently run shelters providing invaluable services to women escaping violence and to community education, including an effective police education campaign, were closed in 1997 and 1999 due to lack of funding.

The role of women’s rights activists is crucial to ensure that at least a small proportion of women obtain protection. Women’s organizations in Turkey believe that such centres should be run independently of the government. “We have reports that government-run women’s shelters are turning away women who do not have their identity cards with them,” said a representative. “When you are running away from a violent home, do you think to take your identity card?” Government-run shelters have been criticized for their failures to accept women who fall into particular categories – for example, prostitutes, women with health problems and women who are pregnant.

Please write, calling on the authorities to help protect women by funding a sufficient number of appropriate shelters for women in collaboration with NGOs experienced in working to protect women from violence.

Send appeals to:
Prime Minister of Turkey
Recep Tayyip Erdogan
Office of the Prime Minister
Basbakanlik
06573 Ankara
Turkey

E-mail: receptayyip.erdogan@basbakanlik.gov.tr

18.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 12:46 am

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/oj/2006/ce157/ce15720060706en03850390.pdf
http://www.amnesty.ca/take_action/actions/turkey_legislation.php
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGEUR440242004?open&of=ENG-373
Alpha_F please do not make yourself rideculous about frankists!What do you know about them???!!!According to them women rigth was to bear children and do not protest against domestic violence!Still in Spain there are example of wives battery and "Macho"attitude"but thanks evolution,women grew up enough to fight for their rights!Why men still tend to treat women worse than domestic animals in some countries?Is it bcs women.children and fish do not have voice?just insignificant creatures?
damn it,both sexes were created equal,so far we do not know what God's sex is as according to the Bible god said"I am what I am"brain teaser.isn't it???????
why,why.why women have to be submissive and suffer?????

19.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 12:58 am

Where do you girls get such a weird idea that AlphaF can have anything, ANYTHING, against welfare of women kind?

If no one wants to discuss Amnesty International, LGBT Movement, and Frankists....I do not mind !

20.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:02 am

Alpha F or Omega or all greek alphabet,I do not mind discuss frankists with you)))))

21.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:03 am

Quoting MarioninTurkey:



a) It is in Todays Zaman - which as Alpha F points out is a newspaper published by a more religious media group



I would think twice on this opinion.

I have never seen ZAMAN stand up against moslems being bombarded in Afghanistan or in Iraq...Seems weird, unless ZAMAN also believes it was time moslems got a good bombardment.

22.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:09 am

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Alpha F or Omega or all greek alphabet,I do not mind discuss frankists with you)))))



Glad we have an expert among us ! There is so much I need to learn on the issue...

Can you relate Frank Jacob's preachings (300 years ago) with LGBT Movement led by Amnesty International (today)?

23.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:10 am

weird!yesterday I watched Rambo 3 ..again...and the end of the film...in the homage of afghan nation)))Irony!!!Russians left=Americans still!!!Rambo!Where r u????

24.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:19 am

Quoting AlphaF:

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Alpha F or Omega or all greek alphabet,I do not mind discuss frankists with you)))))



Glad we have an expert among us ! There is so much I need to learn on the issue...

Can you relate Frank Jacob's preachings (300 years ago) with LGBT Movement led by Amnesty International (today)?


ohh,too late to go into details,and next time state your views clearly,pls!I am an expert on General Franco...his supporters are known worldwide as frankists ..not Frank jacob's...misunderstanding!!!we need to cooperate more!Anyway,no women's rights in Gen.Franco's times...see you
goodnight

25.       portokal
2516 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:36 am

while frankists were looking at Napoleon as a potential messiah somewhere in the nearby hassids considered his expansion the attack of gog and magog )))))))))

LGBT beats me

goodnight TC )))

26.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:43 am

Frankists were jolly and crafty fellows, in the philosophy they preached.

Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Transexual

LGBT

27.       portokal
2516 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:51 am

looks like i have to emit an opinion on hermafrodits.

28.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:57 am

You can hardly speculate on Amnesty International's LGBT Movement, or two priests marriying or fights to legalize marriage between members of the same sex...etc., unless you are familiar with Frankists.

29.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 11:17 am

Quoting portokal:

looks like i have to emit an opinion on hermafrodits.


Porto))), do not forget bigamists,poligamists and black widows,alcoholics,tramps,rebels,etc....

Seriously speaking I wonder why some men so strongly oppose women's rights.Have they read the latest book of Bryan Sykes,Oxford genetics professor?
http://www.wfs.org/trend2ma05.htm

30.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 06:25 pm

Quoting MarioninTurkey:

I found the article fascinating, not just because I agree with the topic of women's shelters (Mor Çatı has been doing a wonderful work here formany many years) but also:

a) It is in Todays Zaman - which as Alpha F points out is a newspaper published by a more religious media group

and

b) some fascianting quotes e.g.:

In just three hours, around 300 signatures were collected. ..Several women expressed their surprise at seeing male activists engaged in the topic. “It is very nice that men also show their support for the issue,” said Zeynep, 56.

“It is mostly older women who are aware of the problem,” says AI-Turkey member Özlem Çolak (24), adding that headscarved women in particular are very open to discussing the situation. “They always listen and often sign,” she said. “The younger women, though, often wave it off and do not take the issue seriously.”

Interestingly, some women refused to sign but accepted a gift the activists had prepared: a small hand mirror on which the phone number of a women’s helpline, Mor Çatı, was written.



Interestingly enough, the same is true of women in the US. Older women are more likely to listen and ask for help. In my opinion, it is because at this point their children are grown and they feel a little more secure in leaving. Younger women will take your information but will often shrug you off.

31.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 07:40 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


Interestingly enough, the same is true of women in the US. Older women are more likely to listen and ask for help. In my opinion, it is because at this point their children are grown and they feel a little more secure in leaving. Younger women will take your information but will often shrug you off.


lisa, it is soooooo different!

32.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Dec 2007 Sat 08:12 pm

Say No to Violence Against Women

33.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 12:22 am



At least one out of every three women around the world has been beaten, coerced into sex, or otherwise abused in her lifetime — with the abuser usually someone known to her. Violence against women and girls is a universal problem of pandemic proportions. Perhaps the most pervasive human rights violation that we know today, it devastates lives, fractures communities, and stalls development.

sad, very sad!

34.       christine
443 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 01:00 am

Abuse is not always physical, but can also be mental.

35.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 07:37 pm

how they lift a woman!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/7107379.stm

36.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 07:48 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

how they lift a woman!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/7107379.stm



Thanks for sharing that - I hadn't seen it. What a hypocritical country it is. And..how brave Shadi Sadr is - thank God for people like her.

The interview will be on BBC World Service on December 5th :-

"Crossing Continents on BBC Radio 4 tells Leila's story on Thursday, November 29 at 1100 GMT, her story will also be told on the World Service programme Assignment on Wednesday, December 5 at 0900 GMT.

Leila's interview was recorded by the Iranian filmmaker, Hamid Rahmanian for a forthcoming film about the Omid e Mehr."

37.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:25 pm

Iran: Use of the word women 'banned from state TV'

Tehran, 29 Nov. (AKI) - The word 'women' must now be replaced on Iranian state television by 'family', reformist Norouz news agency reports.

In programmes broadcast throughout the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against women last Sunday, Iranian state TV used the world family instead.

In recent weeks, Iran's Centre for the Participation of Women changed its name to the Centre for Family Matters.

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/CultureAndMedia/?id=1.0.1613494695

38.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:27 pm

Yet another ‘honour killing’ in Pakistan

Islamabad: A girl in Pakistan's Punjab province became victim of an 'honour killing' when she was axed to death by her father and close relatives for allegedly having an affair with a boy from her locality.

The girl was killed after her father, Farooq Khan Baloch, became suspicious that his daughter was having an affair with Amjad, a youngster in Jhang tehsil in Punjab province. Seeing them together, Farooq with relatives Sher Khan, Asghar Khan and Riaz Khan, axed the girl to death, while the boy managed to escape, The Dawn newspaper reported on Thursday.

The police have registered a case. It said that 'honour killings' are widespread among rural Muslim tribes in Pakistan where the victims are mostly female.

The spilling of blood under the garb of honour is mostly at the behest of close family members with the aim of undoing the perceived loss of wider family status owing to the actions of the victim.

Ghazala, a woman in the Punjab province's Joharabad, was set on fire by her brother on January 6, 1999. She was murdered because her family suspected her of having an illicit relationship with a neighbour.

Women in Pakistan face death by shooting, burning or killing with axes if they are deemed to have brought shame on the family. They are killed for supposed illicit relationships, for marrying men of their choice, for divorcing husbands. They are even murdered by their kin if they are raped as they are thereby deemed to have brought shame on their family.

Often, the truth of the suspicion does not matter; merely the allegation is enough to bring dishonour on the family and therefore justifies the slaying.

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14568914

39.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:27 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

how they lift a woman!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/7107379.stm



Thanks for sharing that - I hadn't seen it. What a hypocritical country it is. And..how brave Shadi Sadr is - thank God for people like her.

The interview will be on BBC World Service on December 5th :-

"Crossing Continents on BBC Radio 4 tells Leila's story on Thursday, November 29 at 1100 GMT, her story will also be told on the World Service programme Assignment on Wednesday, December 5 at 0900 GMT.

Leila's interview was recorded by the Iranian filmmaker, Hamid Rahmanian for a forthcoming film about the Omid e Mehr."



Hideous article....mans inhumanity to man is astrounding. On the same page I found this...not about women....but still

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7123039.stm

What is becoming of the human race?

40.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:28 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Iran: Use of the word women 'banned from state TV'

Tehran, 29 Nov. (AKI) - The word 'women' must now be replaced on Iranian state television by 'family',



lol lol lol
If I don't laugh I will cry!!!! Femme you are a wonderful family for posting it .... thanks! lol

41.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:30 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Iran: Use of the word women 'banned from state TV'

Tehran, 29 Nov. (AKI) - The word 'women' must now be replaced on Iranian state television by 'family',



lol lol lol
If I don't laugh I will cry!!!! Femme you are a wonderful family for posting it .... thanks! lol


dont they see how stupid they are?

42.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:31 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Yet another ‘honour killing’ in Pakistan



I think Pakistan is another country we can add to our long list of "extreme exceptions" in Islam

43.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:35 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Yet another ‘honour killing’ in Pakistan



I think Pakistan is another country we can add to our long list of "extreme exceptions" in Islam


why?
it is already on the list.
iran, iraq, saudi arabia, sudan, afghanistan, palestine, egypt, indonesia and more.

44.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:12 pm


my name is there
but i couldnt find your name, catwoman!

45.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:25 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:


my name is there
but i couldnt find your name, catwoman!



Well...I added mine, but can't see it there

46.       portokal
2516 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:42 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Iran: Use of the word women 'banned from state TV'

Tehran, 29 Nov. (AKI) - The word 'women' must now be replaced on Iranian state television by 'family', reformist Norouz news agency reports.

In programmes broadcast throughout the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against women last Sunday, Iranian state TV used the world family instead.

In recent weeks, Iran's Centre for the Participation of Women changed its name to the Centre for Family Matters.

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/CultureAndMedia/?id=1.0.1613494695



this also means that from now on young families will be sold for prostitution?!

47.       portokal
2516 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:45 pm

Quoting alameda:


Hideous article....mans inhumanity to man is astrounding.
What is becoming of the human race?



indeed... what about mans inhumanity towards wo-man.

48.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 10:26 pm

Quoting portokal:

Quoting alameda:


Hideous article....mans inhumanity to man is astrounding.
What is becoming of the human race?



indeed... what about mans inhumanity towards wo-man.



Of course....it goes without being said, doesn't it? The hand that rocks the cradle rocks the world...what happened?

I often wonder if the word humane is wrong. It seems we have regressed to "Might makes Right"

49.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 01:37 am

Quoting femme_fatal:


my name is there
but i couldnt find your name, catwoman!


Are you watching me Femme?

50.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:05 am

"In 2004, the European Commission noted in a recommendation on Turkey’s accession to the EU that violence and discrimination against women, including honor killings, is a major problem in Turkey.[9] A study from 2003 by Istanbul Bilgi University estimated that 31.5 % of Turkish women were beaten by their husbands, while another study from 2000 estimated that 97% of women experience psychological and physical domestic abuse.[10]"

United Nations Development Fund for Women - Turkey

51.       vineyards
1954 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 10:43 am

Iran is a rich country with enermous energy resources, a long history and a versatile geography. In other words, they have everything to exist as a peaceful and an affluent nation.

By comparison, Turkey having depleted all its human/economic resources at a series of wars is not so rich as Iran.

Many Iranians I know are exremely sly and tactful people. They usually have a tendency towards excelling in sophisticated matters. Nearly half of the population in Iran is composed of Azeri Turks. You could communicate to most Iranians in Turkish therefore.

Thse people closely monitor the developments in European countries and Turkey. When they visit Turkey they quickly adapt to the life here. I've seen Iranian girls enjoying themselves in discos and bars just like a Western girl would.

I also hear that there is a behind the doors life in Iran which is risky but very colorful too. Some of those veiled women are said to convert themselves into party girls once the they escape from the streets.

52.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 06:09 pm

Quoting vineyards:

Iran is a rich country with enermous energy resources, a long history and a versatile geography. In other words, they have everything to exist as a peaceful and an affluent nation.

By comparison, Turkey having depleted all its human/economic resources at a series of wars is not so rich as Iran.

Many Iranians I know are exremely sly and tactful people. They usually have a tendency towards excelling in sophisticated matters. Nearly half of the population in Iran is composed of Azeri Turks. You could communicate to most Iranians in Turkish therefore.

Thse people closely monitor the developments in European countries and Turkey. When they visit Turkey they quickly adapt to the life here. I've seen Iranian girls enjoying themselves in discos and bars just like a Western girl would.

I also hear that there is a behind the doors life in Iran which is risky but very colorful too. Some of those veiled women are said to convert themselves into party girls once the they escape from the streets.


in other words they are hypocrites

53.       vineyards
1954 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 08:46 pm

What can you do when you know a mullah will burn your ass ?

54.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 08:53 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

...............
in other words they are hypocrites



JUDGE NOT

55.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:01 pm

Quoting vineyards:

What can you do when you know a mullah will burn your ass ?


thats what they wanted, didnt they?
it also may happen to your country if the mullahs wont stop insisting/forcing young girls to wear hijabs manipulating through their families, threatening them, or shaming them etc etc, and pretending as if women themselves want to get wrapped with sheets.

56.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:02 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting femme_fatal:

...............
in other words they are hypocrites



JUDGE NOT


use it first to yourself, alameda!

57.       teaschip
3870 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:04 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting femme_fatal:

...............
in other words they are hypocrites



JUDGE NOT


use it first to yourself, alameda!



Finally!

58.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:15 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting femme_fatal:

...............
in other words they are hypocrites



JUDGE NOT


use it first to yourself, alameda!



Finally!



I don't think it was a judgement but more of a statement of the obvious.

59.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:23 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:



use it first to yourself, alameda!



Judge not....another version

60.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:36 pm

alameda reported on me vai vai!

61.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:39 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

alameda reported on me vai vai!


Femme, take your pills and stop crying, nobody reported you, it's obvious what you are doing!!!!!

62.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:42 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting femme_fatal:

alameda reported on me vai vai!


Femme, take your pills and stop crying, nobody reported you, it's obvious what you are doing!!!!!


im short of pills lately, alameda promised me to send more.
but cant rely on those amerikans, can i?

63.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:45 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting femme_fatal:

alameda reported on me vai vai!


Femme, take your pills and stop crying, nobody reported you, it's obvious what you are doing!!!!!


im short of pills lately, alameda promised me to send more.
but cant rely on those amerikans, can i?



Femme there are no pills for being a west hating fat ass...

64.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:49 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting femme_fatal:

alameda reported on me vai vai!


Femme, take your pills and stop crying, nobody reported you, it's obvious what you are doing!!!!!


im short of pills lately, alameda promised me to send more.
but cant rely on those amerikans, can i?



Femme there are no pills for being a west hating fat ass...


oh, i desperately need those amerikan candies! they say cock-roaches are healthy for your bottom! didnt you know JLO had them?

65.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:52 pm

Quote:

Quote:

Femme there are no pills for being a west hating fat ass...


oh, i desperately need those amerikan candies! they say cock-roaches are healthy for your bottom! didnt you know JLO had them?



AEnigma Lopez must be telling you her sisters beauty secrets again! I will go and get some M&Ms now and send them to you...would you like any extra for Borat?

66.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:55 pm

Sadly Jenny got the butt....I got the brains

67.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:58 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Sadly Jenny got the butt....I got the brains


I am so sorry Aenigma... I really am Nobody even knew that Jennifer had a sister called Aenigma...

68.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 09:59 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Sadly Jenny got the butt....I got the brains


I am so sorry Aenigma... I really am Nobody even knew that Jennifer had a sister called Aenigma...



Thank you ermmmm Furball
I was the "black sheep" of the family . They kept me locked in a box for years. Now I am allowed out on Sundays

69.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 10:01 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Sadly Jenny got the butt....I got the brains


I am so sorry Aenigma... I really am Nobody even knew that Jennifer had a sister called Aenigma...



Thank you ermmmm Furball
I was the "black sheep" of the family . They kept me locked in a box for years. Now I am allowed out on Sundays


OMG
maybe you were not as bottom as JLO?

70.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Dec 2007 Mon 10:03 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Thank you ermmmm Furball
I was the "black sheep" of the family . They kept me locked in a box for years. Now I am allowed out on Sundays


Hmmm... maybe you're a binturong?

71.       vineyards
1954 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 12:24 am

What are you talking about exactly?

72.       vineyards
1954 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 12:28 am

If Alameda, Femme, Teaschip and all the others can find a way to at least communicate with one another that will indeed be something for each one of those individuals to be proud of...

73.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 01:00 am

Quoting vineyards:

If Alameda, Femme, Teaschip and all the others can find a way to at least communicate with one another that will indeed be something for each one of those individuals to be proud of...


I have a similar strange feeling... Seems like only femme understands me!

74.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 12:51 pm

In the fall of 2006, women's rights groups in Iran launched the One Million Signatures for Equality campaign with the aim of gathering one million signatures demanding the repeal of Iranian laws that are discriminatory towards women. This campaign was born out of a peaceful rally of hundreds of Iranians in Tehran on June 12, 2006, which was violently broken up by police.

Delaram Ali is one of several activists who have been criminally charged for participating in the June 2006 rally (see Human Rights First alert here). Ms. Ali, a 24-year-old sociology student and active member of the campaign, was sentenced in July 2007 to two years and ten months in prison, as well as 10 lashes. On November 4, 2007, she was told that her appeals against conviction had been exhausted and that she should report to prison for the sentence to be carried out. After seven leading human rights organizations around the world made a statement condemning the harsh sentence, the sentence was stayed; as of last week, however, the stay has expired and the sentence could be implemented at any time.

you can read the rest of the story here:

Drop Charges Against Iranian Women's Rights Activists

Doesn't that make you appreciate the freedom you have in your country?

75.       Cacık
296 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 01:03 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Doesn't that make you appreciate the freedom you have in your country?



Yes it does catwoman, but it should also mean we fight for other women to have the same basic rights to freedom, speech and protection.

76.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 01:15 pm

Quoting Cacık:

Quoting catwoman:

Doesn't that make you appreciate the freedom you have in your country?



Yes it does catwoman, but it should also mean we fight for other women to have the same basic rights to freedom, speech and protection.


I like the idea, let's do it!

77.       Cacık
296 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 02:20 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Cacık:

Quoting catwoman:

Doesn't that make you appreciate the freedom you have in your country?



Yes it does catwoman, but it should also mean we fight for other women to have the same basic rights to freedom, speech and protection.


I like the idea, let's do it!



Count me in, all women of any age, race, religion, colour, sizei shape must be protected from violence inside and outside of the home. Women must be given the opportunity to find professional and confidential help and support and moreover, understanding.

78.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 03:33 pm

Quoting Cacık:

Count me in, all women of any age, race, religion, colour, sizei shape must be protected from violence inside and outside of the home. Women must be given the opportunity to find professional and confidential help and support and moreover, understanding.



I love your posts Cacik. We currently have a vacancy in the "Chewing Gum Gang" if you are interested? lol

79.       Cacık
296 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 04:08 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I love your posts Cacik. We currently have a vacancy in the "Chewing Gum Gang" if you are interested? lol



Can I you all a question ? Do you think enough is done in Turkey to create awareness on a national level about helplines for woman protection ? Does anyone here think it is a shame to admit that you have been attacked ? Is violence against woman taken seriously enough here ? Are most women seen as "asking for it" when they have been attacked ?

The thing that touched my heart the most on all these posts was when someone mentioned in their post or quote from the newspaper that one woman was so surprised to see a man campaigning for womens rights. My hubby believes in womens right too. Many men here do ! Bravo !!

BTW, I prefer the chewing gum that blows your head off with menthol when you chew - like Airwaves !!!

80.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 04:25 pm

Quoting Cacık:


Can I you all a question ? Do you think enough is done in Turkey to create awareness on a national level about helplines for woman protection ? Does anyone here think it is a shame to admit that you have been attacked ? Is violence against woman taken seriously enough here ? Are most women seen as "asking for it" when they have been attacked ?


i didnt make sense of your post, cacik.
if you could make it in more plain language (the language of labor people) i would appreciate.

81.       Cacık
296 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 05:43 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Cacık:


Can I you all a question ? Do you think enough is done in Turkey to create awareness on a national level about helplines for woman protection ? Does anyone here think it is a shame to admit that you have been attacked ? Is violence against woman taken seriously enough here ? Are most women seen as "asking for it" when they have been attacked ?


i didnt make sense of your post, cacik.
if you could make it in more plain language (the language of labor people) i would appreciate.



I wish to have peoples opinions and answers to the questions I wrote so I mean: do the readers here believe that there is enough awareness (public knowledge throughout the whole country) about where women can go, who women can call when they are desperate ?

is it common for woman to be made to feel (by police, their husbands, the judge) that the woman herself was responsible for the attack or crime against her (i.e. it was not the man's fault but her own - meaning "asking for it").

The reason I ask these questions is that a friend of mine said she thinks crimes are not reported because the victim feels shame or ashamed.

I do hope this is clearer now because I am interested to know what people think about these questions.

Thanks

82.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 06:10 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Thank you ermmmm Furball
I was the "black sheep" of the family . They kept me locked in a box for years. Now I am allowed out on Sundays


Hmmm... maybe you're a binturong?



Correction...That was an icebox ))))))))))))

83.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 06:17 pm

Quoting Cacık:


I wish to have peoples opinions and answers to the questions I wrote so I mean: do the readers here believe that there is enough awareness (public knowledge throughout the whole country) about where women can go, who women can call when they are desperate ?

Thanks



Where are all those desparate women? How come no one calls me?

84.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 06:19 pm

Quoting Cacık:



I wish to have peoples opinions and answers to the questions I wrote so I mean: do the readers here believe that there is enough awareness (public knowledge throughout the whole country) about where women can go, who women can call when they are desperate ?

is it common for woman to be made to feel (by police, their husbands, the judge) that the woman herself was responsible for the attack or crime against her (i.e. it was not the man's fault but her own - meaning "asking for it").

The reason I ask these questions is that a friend of mine said she thinks crimes are not reported because the victim feels shame or ashamed.

I do hope this is clearer now because I am interested to know what people think about these questions.

Thanks


i agree with you. i myself am from such society. where if you are raped it means its your fault, and you will bear all the consequences. you will be judged by the society, by your own family. and theres no future for you, nobody will respect you, and possibly nobody will marry you.

85.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 10:30 pm

Cacik - a good way to get involved would be finding a UNIFEM chapter in your region and working with them.

Look at this brave woman: Response to claim that women should not appear on TV (Saudi Arabia)

86.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 10:58 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Cacik - a good way to get involved would be finding a UNIFEM chapter in your region and working with them.

Look at this brave woman: Response to claim that women should not appear on TV (Saudi Arabia)



I pray that all the women in this region of the world find the incredible strength that this woman has...these men are complete cowards hiding behind religion! What are they really afraid of?

87.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:05 pm

I don't think they are afraid of anything, they just enjoy the absolute freedom and power they have. They can do whatever they want, while their wifes are locked up at home cooking dinner and taking care of kids.

88.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:07 pm

It just BURNS ME UP! What arrogance..What ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE of these men!!

89.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:12 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

It just BURNS ME UP! What arrogance..What ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE of these men!!


Yes, and imagine that some of them even beat and rape the women when they refuse to have sex.
There was something very shocking I saw on a Turkish calender some time ago. It had a list of things that are allowed to do during Ramadan and one of them was: "when you are cooking food, you are allowed to taste it so that your husband is not angry when the food isn't salty or spicy enough". :-S

90.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:42 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

It just BURNS ME UP! What arrogance..What ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE of these men!!



This link also explains it well..."spoiled, selfish men"..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZfXqFGbd6E&feature=related

91.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:48 pm

There is only one "girleegirl" in this group. The number of "manleegirls" is amazingly high.

God bless our only girleegirl !

92.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:51 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Elisabeth:

It just BURNS ME UP! What arrogance..What ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE of these men!!


Yes, and imagine that some of them even beat and rape the women when they refuse to have sex.
There was something very shocking I saw on a Turkish calender some time ago. It had a list of things that are allowed to do during Ramadan and one of them was: "when you are cooking food, you are allowed to taste it so that your husband is not angry when the food isn't salty or spicy enough". :-S



I wonder how many of these men die of poisoning!! Oh, my evil mind is working now!!

93.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:53 pm

Please dont insult "girleegirl" - she is far too clever for you. Don't you worry yourself about us, Alpha. A man of your insecurities and arrogance finds it impossible to imagine clever, smart, independent women can be beautiful or sexy I can assure you there is nothing "manly" about me.

I think it's best that you stick to women who laugh and giggle at your misogynist comments - a complete air-head is the only type of woman who will be able to make you feel intelligent, clever and unthreatened.

I love the way you always make such comments like this after ANY post about EQUALITY for women.

94.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:53 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

There is only one "girleegirl" in this group. The number of "manleegirls" is amazingly high.

God bless our girleegirl !


Hahahahahah, Alfie's transference to the songs he got from girleegirl. His ego didn't let him respond directly to that thread.

95.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:56 pm

Boy !... That was funny ....

96.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:57 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

I wonder how many of these men die of poisoning!! Oh, my evil mind is working now!!


Heheheheh, Elizabeth... you are full of ideas.

97.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Dec 2007 Wed 11:58 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Boy !... That was funny ....


Boy you sure are, except when you're pathetic and racist..

98.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 02:25 am

I am not a racist. I am a nationalist.

You just dont know the difference, that is all! )))))))))))

99.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 03:28 am

Quoting AlphaF:

There is only one 'girleegirl' in this group. The number of 'manleegirls' is amazingly high.

God bless our only girleegirl !



Lil ol' me?? Oh Alfie...you shouldn't have
Now you girls don't go hatin on me for capturing the heart of Alfie....
You can all fight Femme for Sui.

100.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 07:18 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Lil ol' me?? Oh Alfie...you shouldn't have
Now you girls don't go hatin on me for capturing the heart of Alfie....
You can all fight Femme for Sui.


I don't want to know what you had done to him.

101.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 04:35 pm

Amnesty International
2004 – Nebahat Akkoc, Turkey
A Kurdish teacher from Diyarbakir in Eastern Turkey, Ms Akkoc responded to her own experience of political and sexual abuse, including the murder of her husband and her arrest and torture, by founding the organization Ka-Mer (Women's Center) to advance women's rights in southeast Anatolia, Turkey. Today there are branches of Ka-Mer in five other Anatolian cities providing legal and psychological counseling for abused women.Recently Ka-Mer is offerring crisis line help, direct assistance, and intervention for women and family members impacted by Honor Killings.

102.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 07:05 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Amnesty International
2004 – Nebahat Akkoc, Turkey
A Kurdish teacher from Diyarbakir in Eastern Turkey, Ms Akkoc responded to her own experience of political and sexual abuse, including the murder of her husband and her arrest and torture, by founding the organization Ka-Mer (Women's Center) to advance women's rights in southeast Anatolia, Turkey. Today there are branches of Ka-Mer in five other Anatolian cities providing legal and psychological counseling for abused women.Recently Ka-Mer is offerring crisis line help, direct assistance, and intervention for women and family members impacted by Honor Killings.



Good for her, brave woman! It's repulsive to think Honor Killings still happen.

103.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 07:30 pm

I love strong women like her. Both thumbs up!

104.       joanne1980
125 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 07:33 pm

not sure this is completely relevant to the post but...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE4D81E3FF93AA35752C1A965958260

oh and the same story in the turkish paper also mentioned that she pinned the thing above her sons bed as a warning about mistreating your wife or something like that.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/8437471.asp?gid=229&sz=67407

let it be a lesson ...

105.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 08:10 pm

Quoting joanne1980:

not sure this is completely relevant to the post but...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE4D81E3FF93AA35752C1A965958260

oh and the same story in the turkish paper also mentioned that she pinned the thing above her sons bed as a warning about mistreating your wife or something like that.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/8437471.asp?gid=229&sz=67407

let it be a lesson ...



This definately made the headlines and I don't think anyone will forget it, especially men. Though I believe this was quite the extreme, I'm sure it made some men think twice about cheating though..at least for a moment.

106.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 17 Aug 2008 Sun 12:18 am

Dear friends,

The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) has received information from a remote area of Balochistan province, that five women were buried alive, allegedly by the younger brother of Mr. Sadiq Umrani, the provincial minister and a prominent leader of the Pakistan People´s Party, the ruling party. However, police have still not arrested the perpetrators after one month of the incident.

 

http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2008/2969/

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